Science Abuse Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 ..and why I advocate a mental screening beofre ownership is allowed. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,437162,00.html Yuck it up all you want gun'ofiles, there's allot wrong with what the guy did, strategically and ethically. Excessive force; guilty as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewhop Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I dont think any type of further gun restrictions would have stopped this guy from being a complete fucking moron. How would you go about any type of mental evaluation to see if you are able to own a SHOTGUN...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 When this kind of thing happens what, 3 times a year, is it really worth it to punish the other 40% of the nation's citizens that DON'T do shit like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 How about you take more unregistered guns off the street. Making guns harder to get will only affect law abiding people. Even most morons have seen law & order, and know that guns used to commit crimes shouldn't be registered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I guess we better take away all knives, baseball bats, tire irons, pipe wrenches, matches. You know, you are right, the government is always the able to determine what is best for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 How about you take more unregistered guns off the street. So what you are saying is that every single gun in the state of Ohio needs to be confiscated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Pre-94' Brady bill weapons are not registered, along with many others bought at gun shows. Registration is honestly BS, the background check is good enough. It's on the form: Any history of mental illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 ..and why I advocate a mental screening beofre ownership is allowed. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,437162,00.html Yuck it up all you want gun'ofiles, there's allot wrong with what the guy did, strategically and ethically. Excessive force; guilty as fuck. The kids weren't exactly in the right. But the man did over step his boundaries for self-defense. A mental screening would have done nothing in this situation what so ever. Each individual operates different in times of distress, danger, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 So what you are saying is that every single gun in the state of Ohio needs to be confiscated? No, what I am saying is that gun control is stupid. Come up with a way to take guns away from criminals not the average american exercising their right to bear arms. There is no simple solution to this problem, but this isn't the answer. You want an answer find a way to prove people's intentions, and start taking away guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 No, what I am saying is that gun control is stupid. Come up with a way to take guns away from criminals not the average american exercising their right to bear arms. There is no simple solution to this problem, but this isn't the answer. You want an answer find a way to prove people's intentions, and start taking away guns. What you said, was we need to get unregistered guns off the street. Ohio does not have gun registration. Therefore, all guns in the state of Ohio are unregistered. Therefore, to remove unregistered guns in the state of Ohio, you would be removing ALL guns in the state of Ohio. Now then, people that have been convicted of Felonies are not allowed by law to own/carry/possess weapons. Enforcement of this law would do FAR more for the cutting of crime, than creating new bullshit laws that hurt no one but the people that actually follow the laws that exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 The homeowner was stupid. Chasing the kids with a baseball bat down the street while yelling "get off my damn lawn" would have worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 What you said, was we need to get unregistered guns off the street. Ohio does not have gun registration. Therefore, all guns in the state of Ohio are unregistered. Therefore, to remove unregistered guns in the state of Ohio, you would be removing ALL guns in the state of Ohio. Now then, people that have been convicted of Felonies are not allowed by law to own/carry/possess weapons. Enforcement of this law would do FAR more for the cutting of crime, than creating new bullshit laws that hurt no one but the people that actually follow the laws that exist. Sorry but I think we are on the same page. By unregistered I meant people who bought guns without any kind of backround check. I have bought guns both ways, at a store and at a gun show, it's too easy to get firearms with out a backround check. Do you think guns should just have titles like cars? I don't know what the answer is, but any kind of backround check is only going to affect gun sales over the counter at a store. Not from smome guy selling some gun to someone else who is going to do who knows what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I've bought guns from friends without a background check I've bought guns from stores with a background check Am I a criminal? No, guns shouldn't have titles, that's stupid. Just another form of government intervention and licensing. How different is that from registration, other than you also get a piece of paper with it saying you are the owner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I've bought guns from friends without a background check I've bought guns from stores with a background check Am I a criminal? No, guns shouldn't have titles, that's stupid. Just another form of government intervention and licensing. How different is that from registration, other than you also get a piece of paper with it saying you are the owner? I'm sorry bud, I know you can't tell that I am being sarcastic. Of course titles and registrations wouldn't work. I do think backround checks are a good idea, but my point was just that there is no easy solution. People who want guns will find ways to get them. Take away all the guns and people will just sharpen things and stab you. This why I excercise my right to bear arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonneVille Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Actually, I like Robert A. Heinlein's solution. Require every law-abiding citizen over the age of 21 to openly carry a handgun. Pass training and practice requirements, and require carry weapons to be of a certain minimum impact energy, accuracy, and quality. Offer a waiver process for the pansies. Is it gonna happen? Fuck no, but i can dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 historic note, if we'd had to register guns way back in the day, we may still be paying taxes to england. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted October 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 How would you go about any type of mental evaluation to see if you are able to own a SHOTGUN...... To be issued a weapon, police officers must first pass a similar evaluation. It's not new. A gun a pipe are lethal, but no where near the same league as a shotgun. Bringing that up just makes you look silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 GUNS FTW!!! Ill shoot the little bastard too. Im lazy and would much rather shoot the fucker than spend a whole day cleaning up TP. J/K But, seriously. If anybody ever tries to put anymore regulations on firearm ownership, Ill fuckin bitchslap them. There is no need, just like what was stated before, If the bad guys wnat a gun, they will get a gun, and if that fails... they WILL cut you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 literally the only way to stop this kind of thing from happening would be to get rid of guns altogether. you can't prevent stupid people from doing stupid things. it sucks, but happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 The gov just called. They said they're taking away my fists 'cause some guy somewhere, beat someone to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonneVille Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 literally the only way to stop this kind of thing from happening would be to get rid of guns altogether. you can't prevent stupid people from doing stupid things. it sucks, but happens. Yup, and then you get to deal with the same people screaming that we should get rid of knives because of the shocking rise in stabbings and knife related crime. Welcome to Merry Olde England, where a half-crippled old man's cane gets confiscated because it's an "offensive weapon". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewhop Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 To be issued a weapon, police officers must first pass a similar evaluation. It's not new. A gun a pipe are lethal, but no where near the same league as a shotgun. Bringing that up just makes you look silly. Law enforcement use and ownership is definately different then civilian use and ownership. So how would you suggest evaluation for two completely different reasons for using the weapon? Plus I don't think you could judge someones emotional reaction to a unique situation. I don't care what the test is. I bet I can pass any mental evaluation thrown at me. But even I cant judge how I would react if my family or my own life was in imminent danger and I had a loaded weapon. I can guess and pretend like I know what I would do but until it would actually happen no one knows what they will do. See you look at me as silly and I think your views on the subject are silly. Your just bored and looking for entertainment and provoking conversations just like the rest of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Law enforcement use and ownership is definately different then civilian use and ownership. No doubt, civilians are far less likely than cops to leave their guns in public restrooms, or shoot themselves in the leg while playing wi....excuse me, "cleaning" their guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Sorry we already have laws on the books to take care of this, assault with a deadly weapon, and attempted murder. the guy goes to jail, the media tells the story. Message sent to everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 To be issued a weapon, police officers must first pass a similar evaluation. It's not new. Like that does any good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.