RedRocket1647545505 Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Whoa. Pretty cool concept, but I fail to see a true advantage over a O/U. Still, from an engineering stand point, it's :fuckyeah:. http://www.impactguns.com/data/default/images/catalog/535/ber_ugb25.jpg http://resmoback.strefa.pl/images/beretta330.jpg http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2XvNQpQAlcz5URPuKuwbjk_KKVwzrv4Z96lVJqP5CPKsT0TuGnoDBwLR2 Video of it in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTGm5y7LADk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Would be cool if you could somehow slap a magazine onto the side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangsn95gt Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Ive never seen a O/U have a failure to feed this could, still think its cool though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 It should recoil less than a O/U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger1647545502 Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I saw some of the discussion when that was previewed at SHOT a couple years back...it is designed to be "legal" for use in a particular European trap and skeet shooting organization. They didn't allow auto-loaders or magazine fed actions for a particular class. Apparently, this is a single-shot shotgun under their rules...the second cartridge is loaded by hand into the hopper/feeder tray, which presents it to the open breech by spring pressure rather than by energy from the previous fired cartridge, so it's not an auto-loader (again, under their rules)...and since the tray isn't enclosed, it's not magazine fed. All I can say is somebody really READ that rulebook looking for the loopholes, and I rather think that if Smokey Yunick shot trap he'd own one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macpyro2 Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 looks like it would be all kinds of fun to have tear down and clean... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourString Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 Functionality aside, that is sexy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 I saw some of the discussion when that was previewed at SHOT a couple years back...it is designed to be "legal" for use in a particular European trap and skeet shooting organization. They didn't allow auto-loaders or magazine fed actions for a particular class. Apparently, this is a single-shot shotgun under their rules...the second cartridge is loaded by hand into the hopper/feeder tray, which presents it to the open breech by spring pressure rather than by energy from the previous fired cartridge, so it's not an auto-loader (again, under their rules)...and since the tray isn't enclosed, it's not magazine fed. All I can say is somebody really READ that rulebook looking for the loopholes, and I rather think that if Smokey Yunick shot trap he'd own one of these. I was going to say it was a solution to a problem that didn't exist, but I guess this sounds plausible. That or a Beretta engineer decided to be a :gabe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owndjoo Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 the main reason that it has a bit of an advantage over the O/U is that you don't have issues with the MOA changes of the 2 different barrels. There is quite a science in the trap/skeet/sporting clays world. My pops isn't a pro or anything, but a state champ and damn good none the less. you should see the crazy ass rail system he's got on the browning cynergy "unsingle" combo. those guns are just crazy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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