help needed 99saab

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What is the process for looking for leaks with brake cleaner? I know there are I believe 4 small vacuum lines that are pretty much shot that come off I believe the throttle body. I dont know with these being bad if that could warrant such a shitty running issue. Its not kinda running bad, its running like hell.

[Cordell]

Wow Jason, it's really starting to sound like you just need to cut your losses and move on.

 

Brake clean (make sure its flammable) is sprayed in places where a vacuum leak is suspected while the engine is running and a change in engine RPM will be noted, if it is running really bad now the engine will just die most likely.

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The car is running and shy of the starter issues that may have been bad parts, this could be just as simple as diagnosing the true issue which I guess could be a simple vacuum leak. I dont think this is anything super major and feel my lack of diagnosing skills is what's hindering me at this point.

[Cordell]

The car is running and shy of the starter issues that may have been bad parts, this could be just as simple as diagnosing the true issue which I guess could be a simple vacuum leak. I dont think this is anything super major and feel my lack of diagnosing skills is what's hindering me at this point.

 

Okay, well vacuum typically doesn't make a rough idle, vacuum will cause a lean condition or an abnormal idle, but typically not rough unless it's feeding something like the MAP sensor.

 

Wish I had some time to swing by, all this typing is making me curious about it.

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come on over I am just sitting in the garage straightening up and listening to the guy 2 streets over scream bloody murder at his dog for not listening.

[Cordell]

come on over I am just sitting in the garage straightening up

 

Sorry sitting in the hospital watching my daughter sleep right now. Let me know if you're still fooling with it tuesday or so.

[Rocky31186]

Okay, well vacuum typically doesn't make a rough idle, vacuum will cause a lean condition or an abnormal idle, but typically not rough unless it's feeding something like the MAP sensor.

 

Wish I had some time to swing by, all this typing is making me curious about it.

 

X2... I hate saabs but has me wanting to swing by and lend a hand..

 

 

With the p0300 code I would say the coil over plug assembly needs replaced.. But I dont want you to throw parts at it..

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Chances are I will be. Your where you need to be, no worries.

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I am surprised that this doesn't look like to hard a motor to figure out. I am sure it's something easy to fix, just not sure where to look.

[Rocky31186]

I know there are other saab owners on here.. No one can swing over and swap a coil pack assembly to see if it fixes it?

[Rocky31186]

Ive also seen Coolant temp sensors go bad causing erratic running conditions.. Timing chain jumping...

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linn is the only guy I know of with a Saab on here

[Browning]

you said the vacuums were dry-rotted. I'd start by replacing those

[Rocky31186]

Regardless they need fixed. But I don't think his vacuume lines will cause the misfire and running issues he has.

 

Maybe me and cordell can come over and put our brains together In a couple days. And whoever else.

[Rocky31186]

Any update?

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I was so busy with my sons birthday party today I didnt have time to check the cassette. I will try the spark plug test tomorrow and let everyone know. I wish I could find a spare to test with.

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I believe I have tested the coil cassette and believe it to be broken. I had spark on all but one of the plugs and it happens to be the one that looks the worse and does appear to have some oil in the sleeve or hole the plug slides into. Not alot of oil just some that doesnt necessarily appear to be new. So do we think the cassette or coil is now at fault or could something else be causing this one plug to not get spark, connection? I did swap plugs around to see if it followed but it stayed at that one location.

 

Called a few junkyards but they ask me if this is motronic or vigeon(I dont know the spelling). Not sure what the difference is and nobody seems to know.

[Cordell]

Sounds like the coil assembly is broken, I don't know that one specifically, but typically none would fire if it wasn't getting a signal, so that should indicate that the coil assembly is at fault. Obviously since I'm not positive of everything you've done, I can't can't say positively that is the issue, but it sure sounds like a very high possiblity.

 

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to over complicate it, but I don't like diagnosing stuff over the internet and don't want you to bank on something I said on here as being a sure thing.

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I am confused by your reply. If just one plug isnt getting spark were thinking that since its all one piece pretty much, that the whole thing needs replaced? Or is there something else that would prevent just the one from getting spark?

[Cordell]

I am confused by your reply. If just one plug isnt getting spark were thinking that since its all one piece pretty much, that the whole thing needs replaced? Yes, most likely Or is there something else that would prevent just the one from getting spark? I'm not positive because I'm not experienced on how those function, but typically not

 

Like I said, sorry for over thinking it, but since I'm not positive on how it works on a Saab, even though its prabably just the same as most stuff, I didn't want to give you the impression that the coil assembly was deffenitly the issue.

[Rocky31186]

Call autozone or advanced and see if they have one.. Other wise pull it off and take it with you to the junk yard and make sure its the right one..

 

Since your not getting spark on one of them, thats more than likely the issue.. You need to make sure there is no more oil in the spark plug tube when you put the new one on..

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I have a saab repair guy looking for a used one for me to test with, will know in the morning. Also found a junkyard that states he has one for $35 but these things are known for issues and its most likely just as bad if he even in fact has what he states he has.

[Rocky31186]

Call napa and see if they have this part #..... Part Number: ECH IC286

[PRD2BDF]

Is it a black DIC or red DIC, I believe all you have to do is find a same colored one at the junkyard and try that.

 

Try http://www.saabcentral.com/forums for diagnosing advice. I do own a Saab but my car shares nothing with that Saab so I cannot help as much as I would like to.

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It is in fact red which I have been told they go by color as well. Where would the oil have come from and how do I stop it?