The_buster Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Im going to rebuild the motor in the civic. I have been looking at vitara pistons because they hold up to 600hp, not going anywhere near that. But I've been trying to price things and cant find any rods or anything for the d15.. find all kinds of stuff for the d16's. So my question is what is the difference? will d16 rods work? can i bore out the cylinders and make it a 1.6L? any info is appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 You want to use 1.6L engine rods to make your 1.5L engine a 1.6L engine? Is this real life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 i dont want to. i just cant find anything for the 1.5L. Im planning on building it for a turbo in the future. im going to swap motors and rebuild the old one properly...hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stangsn95gt Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Mods should give you your own section called "Explain it to Sharkbait" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 yeah... im new to tuning and well cars in general... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 yeah... im new to tuning and well cars in general... Your not even part of the way to "tuning" yet. :dumb: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Can't blame a guy for wanting to learn and do his own work. If I had any Honda experience I would help you. But I don't, so good luck with your project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrodh Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I don't blame him I wont change my own oil its just kind of funny. And in all honesty he seems a little bit in over his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted April 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 my dads going to help me, he has experience with 6 and 8 cylinder engines.. and as far as being in over my head.. yeah i am but you have to learn somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 +1 for doing the work yourself If your going to boost a sohc I'd go with the 1.6L z6 or y8 block. What's your hp goals and is the car going to be a dd with some street/strip car or all out race car? If I was going to build a d-series parts list... 1.D16z6 motor 2.Aftermarket sleeves 3.cp,arias,vitara pistons 20'over 4.eagle,brian crower rods 5.bizmoto,crane cam w/adj cam gear 6.crane valvetrain or equal 7.skunk intake manifold 8.ID 1000cc injectors or depending on hp size 9.Aem fuelrail w/adj fpr 10.70mm tb 11.4bar map sensor 12.aluminum ic piping 13.precision 750hp ic 14.tial 50mm blow off valve 15.vtec trans with lsd 16.act or twin disk clutch 17.500hp axles 18. bosch o44 fuel pump 19.aem wideband 20.Hondata s300 in p28ecu 21. Name brand ramhorn that you can keep ac,ps 44mm wastegate 22.D-series don't flow like the b-series do so get a gt3076r dbb turbo 23.3inch exhaust Now I know this is a big bill just to run 12's (jk) seriously though I've seen people go faster with less exspensive parts but I like over kill so theres always room to grow. The d16 motor are cheap and easy to come by. As far as tuning goes I would go ahead and buy the hondata and run it on a stock car so you can get use to how everything works. Wire the wideband into the ecu so you can datalog and see how everything runs and functions. If you have anymore questions ask away because I tuned my car and I ran 11.85@125 with me tuning it. If I don't know the answer I'll research till I find the right answer. Hope this helps and have fun. Also before people start saying I forgot this or this let me say, I'm sure some of this stuff is common since but if not this ask away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ef8sirJunkie Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 You need to do some reading over at www.D-Series.org and http://www.onecamonly.com/. As far as rods it seems the only difference is D15B7 rest are all the same 137 length. Link below for D series specs. http://www.knology.net/~jediklc/specs.htm As far as Vitara pistons most people run eagle rods with them. this will require soem block notching at your local machine shop (might as well get a hone and check line bore). The best company to talk to about this is http://www.speedfactoryracing.net/ they have built the fastest Vitara car. Also stay away from bullshit Bisimoto parts all that guy does is relable other peoples products and charges more like his cams are actually web cams but he charges more cause his name. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acklac7 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 . and as far as being in over my head.. yeah i am but you have to learn somewhere. See that you live in Newark but you might want to consider taking some introductory Auto courses @ Columbus State. Auto-zone probably would pay for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted April 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Thanks for all the info! I really appreciate it. The car is going to be a dd with some track time at ifo, but mainly want a show worthy dd. Hp goal is between 300-350. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostedD16 Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Find a cheap z6 and build that with some eagle rods. Vitara's are awesome pistons for the price, ran 25ish psi on them for a while. Pulled hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 You need to do some reading over at www.D-Series.org and http://www.onecamonly.com/. As far as rods it seems the only difference is D15B7 rest are all the same 137 length. Link below for D series specs. http://www.knology.net/~jediklc/specs.htm As far as Vitara pistons most people run eagle rods with them. this will require soem block notching at your local machine shop (might as well get a hone and check line bore). The best company to talk to about this is http://www.speedfactoryracing.net/ they have built the fastest Vitara car. Also stay away from bullshit Bisimoto parts all that guy does is relable other peoples products and charges more like his cams are actually web cams but he charges more cause his name. Good Luck funny you mention speedfactory, thats what gave me the idea for the build. We have the honda tuning magazine at work and I was reading about the car on my lunch. I also joined up on d-series.org a couple weeks after I got the car. I was going to just swap a b series but its expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 planning on getting a d16 head non vtec, and going from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 comebackkid thanks for the list. That will probably end up being my "shopping list" lol. as far as the ramhorn.. i dont have ps or ac.. does it still need to be that design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoostedD16 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 comebackkid thanks for the list. That will probably end up being my "shopping list" lol. as far as the ramhorn.. i dont have ps or ac.. does it still need to be that design? Well since you don't have ps or ac you can run whatever mani you want. Ramhorns are awesome, they look sweet and make the most power up top. You could also go with a mini ram, spools up a little faster but may lose some power. I got an rc autoworks mini ram and it was awesome, quality work. Make sure you don't get china ebay crap, will crack every day, ask me how I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 where is a good site to buy these parts from? i was looking on andy's autosport but wasn't sure of how reliable the parts are. they do have name brand stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 Full-race.com. Afiturbo.net slowmotionmotorsports.com. Doc-race.com. Full race has the best manifolds but there prices are high. Afi kits are just as good and prices are a lot better then FR. Slowmotionmotorsports are hit n miss but there local so if there's a problem with the product they sold you they'll make it right( when you can get ahold of them) Doc racing has good products to. I got my top mount from them and yes it cracked but it was my dd car and I had a bws366 turbo which weighed a easy 30lbs if I would have been smart and put alittle brace on it would've never been a problem. Go vtec!!! Lol. A stock d16 non vtec has 96 hp and the vtec version has 126-128hp depending on z6-y8 motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 where is a good site to buy these parts from? i was looking on andy's autosport but wasn't sure of how reliable the parts are. they do have name brand stuff... A lot of these performance shops that sell kits for Hondas are usually 3rd party shops that have accounts with the good rep shops. The first thing I would get is a built block because it's going to be the highest priced part you'll buy. You can probably get by with piston rods and a block guard but why risk it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_buster Posted May 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I was just gonna get my block notched and decked and whatnot... could someone explain that part a little more? Sorry. Or should I buy a d16 motor? I found one for $250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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