Spidey2721 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 http://www.guns.com/obama-administration-atf-power-seize-property-10900.html yea this is America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex1647545498 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharris89 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 10 scariest words you'll ever hear... I'm from the government and I'm here to help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 What's fucking new about this?! Oh, now it's "official". I had my house raided back in 91, nothing was found and no charges were brought. They kept every fucking thing they took: one of my cars, all the shit and paperwork in my drawers, anything informative looking. They even tried to take my dogs after I expressly warned them not to go in the backyard with their drug dog that my dogs would attack. They did. They didn't take the dogs, however they enjoyed threatening me. Their dog shit on my wooden floor and they left that, though. Thanks. Again, I never saw a single, solitary object of mine that they took ever again. ATF was involved in the raid though they may not be the actual ones who confiscated my shit officially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Allow me to point out some bias in this article: -posted on guns.com -references an EDITORIAL column published in a known conservative-leaning publication (Washington Times) -The James Lieto case the article mentions and fails to link to the WSJ? Well, they failed to link it because of the following facts; 1) two men involved in the seizure decided to plead guilty to a multi-million dollar fraud scheme in fall 2010, and 2) in February 2011, Lieto was informed he'd receive every cent back. -the author misquotes Franklin to appear to be more staunch in his defense of "little" liberties. The actual quote is: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Everything about this reeks of having been modified to fit the author's intended goal. I'm not saying it's wrong, but getting worked up about such things without looking for possible other points of view is a betrayal of democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 What's fucking new about this?! Oh, now it's "official". I had my house raided back in 91, nothing was found and no charges were brought. They kept every fucking thing they took: one of my cars, all the shit and paperwork in my drawers, anything informative looking. They even tried to take my dogs after I expressly warned them not to go in the backyard with their drug dog that my dogs would attack. They did. They didn't take the dogs, however they enjoyed threatening me. Their dog shit on my wooden floor and they left that, though. Thanks. Again, I never saw a single, solitary object of mine that they took ever again. ATF was involved in the raid though they may not be the actual ones who confiscated my shit officially. Just curious, what was the warrent for? Drugs im assuming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Just curious, what was the warrent for? Drugs im assuming? That's a very long, deep, complicated, family involved tale that I'd rather not get too deeply into within this thread. Craziness back in the days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedrx7 Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 That's a very long, deep, complicated, family involved tale that I'd rather not get too deeply into within this thread. Craziness back in the days... You brought it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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