Benner Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Owner gave me permission to post this. I did the install about a week ago at Tire Discounters in Marysville About a month ago, I had a guy bring in his 2006 Duramax with a 2 inch Torsion Key and 1 Inch blocks for an Alignment. Did the best I could with the factory Eccentric Bolts for Camber but still had a bad Negative Camber even maxxed out (2 inch torsion key but the bolts were close to maxxed). On top of that the Steering components were starting to suffer from the lift. So talked to him and told him what parts to order and what needed reinforced. He went above and beyond and ordered a full Cognito 7-9 inch Lift Kit with several up graded goodies like Cognito Upper Control arms. The kit basically dropped the Front/Rear/ and Torsion bar crossmembers, replaced the spindles with taller spindles that repositioned the tie rods to a straighter line with the idler/pitman, replaced the idler with a beefier support bracket, and dropped the front diff down to allow better axle angles and added a stronger front shaft with a double u-joint setup. Before is sitting on 33's on 18 inch wheels that rubbed badly. After is on 35's on 20 inch wheels that have almost 2 inches all around from lock to lock. Oh and ride quality is close to factory since everything is repositioned and nothing is really stressed. http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/Formula98/Duramax_zpsfeabb2a5.jpg http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj32/Formula98/Crossmember1_zpsd9d5b010.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky31186 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Cool. Tires on front seem too small for that amount of lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truckin Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Looked better before IMO. Needed alittle more lift in rear. Like rocky said front looks outta place. But aleast it's geometry Is right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benner Posted June 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Yeah kind of my thoughts also. Unfortunately he didn't have the stock torsion key's for me to reinstall (this kit doesn't use the torsion for any lift hence the ride quality). So it's closer to 8 in the front. The bolts are only turned enough to keep them in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 time for some 44s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ry_Trapp01647545522 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 i can't stand these mall crawler lifts, i just can't wrap my mind around why people go with these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Needs more low. :gabe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bahd-ler Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Look way better before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSSon Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Not knocking your work, but that looks turrible. Just turrible. Sick of that style rim too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 looked better before and those wheels are played out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurkvinny Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 So, he bought 20's that looked just like his 18's? I'm glad he like it, but that looks pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Bro dozer wheels lol. Looked better before too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Cognito is a pretty nasty kit. I'm a fan of their work with bilstein shocks. I can't remember if they're utilizing a factory ball joint with their control arms, or if its like Fabtech's uniball stuff. I hope they moved over to poly bushing with their kits too. Had more than a few come in for premature bushing failure. Looks like it could use a 5" rear block Typical Chevy ass low/Cali pre-runner look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 i just can't wrap my mind around why people go with these. Same reason this exists: http://i.imgur.com/WOSa7vl.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 i can't stand these mall crawler lifts, i just can't wrap my mind around why people go with these. Cognito is far from a "mall crawler" lift. Guess he could parking lot pimp, if he lowered it in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkmaster03 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 I like the truck but not a fan of the wheel/tire package. I have 37's on my 6" lift and want to put larger tires on to fill the gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benner Posted June 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Yeah its far from a "mall crawler" lifts. Has all the supports to do some serious work. Just needs to be welded to finish off reinforcements. Agree on the wheels. See them far too often. Would like to see some 37's on 18's. As stated before the front is higher because he didn't have the original torsion keys. I have the bolts out as far as they'll go while not being able to back out. Needs the stock keys and then adjusted accordingly. Lift is closer to 8-9 inches up front with 5 inch blocks in the rear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck531 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 The truck should be Benner... and I bet the owner is just lifting it up to drive around town correct? I doubt that he'll have any chance of going "off road" in it.. and I don't mean driving on gravel or his lawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ry_Trapp01647545522 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 Same reason this exists: http://i.imgur.com/WOSa7vl.jpg yea, i've never been able to wrap my head around that shit either, LOL Cognito is far from a "mall crawler" lift. Guess he could parking lot pimp, if he lowered it in that case. Yeah its far from a "mall crawler" lifts. Has all the supports to do some serious work. Just needs to be welded to finish off reinforcements. so what kind of off-roading can you do with this? the center of gravity is too high for doing anything other than going through a mud pit. it maintains the factory geometry, so you aren't going to be jumping this thing when it has all of 10" of front suspension travel - maybe. obviously you won't be rock crawling a truck that ridiculously big - especially when you pretty much still have stock ground clearance at the front diff and those ridiculous torsion bar drop brackets. i'd be shocked if you gained more than 2"-3" of ground clearance over factory if you measure from the front diff or the torsion bars. sorry, i just can't figure out what this track can do after this lift that it couldn't do before it. water crossings and mudpits? i doubt it with those expensive ass 20" wheels... i'm not questioning the work, and if the owner is happy then great! but that is mall crawler by the definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8tn Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 first off there's really no reason to change out the stock keys on an 06 to fit 33's under it. I have 33's on mine with the stock bolts not even adjusted all the way and clear 33's fine with a little shaving done to the front lower bumper which it looks like he did also. my truck on 33's with the bars cranked just enough to clear 33's: http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj37/0rion_album/009resized.jpg Secondly.....that cognito lift is expensive as hell. It's a nice lift.....he should've maybe went with a 37" tire minimum. Still a nice looking lift and truck. As long as he's happy with it that's all that really matters. I agree with others that those rims are played out but like I say.....as long as he's happy. How many hours did you have in the install? I'm guessing that was quite a bit of work that went into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benner Posted June 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 In total probably around d 16 to 18. Never installed a lift even remotely this extensive. Some of the add-ons he bought took a while (not hard just tedious). And I stuck exactly to the directions. If I were to do it again, I could probably knock off 6 or so hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS69 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 I don't understand the lifted duramax's, doesn't those lift kits kill the ability to pull any trailers(car hauler, skid steers loaders/etc). I use my duramax to pull my trailers and to plow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianZ06 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 I don't understand the lifted duramax's, doesn't those lift kits kill the ability to pull any trailers(car hauler, skid steers loaders/etc). I use my duramax to pull my trailers and to plow. I doubt that truck will ever see any work. I know I could not use it with that lift. If my truck was any higher it would be just for show. http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc178/1fstws6/IMG_20130609_083326_937_zps444d08b7.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRTurbo04 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 I don't understand the lifted duramax's, doesn't those lift kits kill the ability to pull any trailers(car hauler, skid steers loaders/etc). I use my duramax to pull my trailers and to plow. I doubt that truck will ever see any work. I know I could not use it with that lift. If my truck was any higher it would be just for show. ] drop hitch son... Now can he pull a 5th wheel meh might be a little odd but I sure he could do it, but a bumper pull for sure. my sisters got a 6 inch lift on 35s on a Tahoe and it pull her boat as if the truck was stuck with a drop hitch. http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg54/bradenW/DSC02369.jpg http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg54/bradenW/DSC02358.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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