Robochan Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Audi 20V 5 cylinder? One of the best sounding machines out there and powered countless rally cars to global wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 I'd say right up there would be a good old Gen 1 Small Block Chevy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 The 3.0/3.2 yamaha v6 as stated, can easily get 4-550hp with F/I and rod bearings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robochan Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Guess it depends on the pedigree you are considering. Porsche's Mezger Engine (GT1 Block) is probably the most successful race engine of the modern era. It was born and bred a motorsport engine and used in street cars for homologation rules. This engine has been in every GT3 / GT2 and Turbo produced since 1999 with it's run officially ending in 2012...though it was still used in the Porsche factory race cars through the end of 2013. In the GT3 variants the differences between race engine and street engine were minimal with the street engine retaining even titanium connecting rods from the race engine along with a true dry sump oiling system. Power levels in the street cars were only down 5-10% from the race engines with the main differences being camshafts and a slight variation in the heads to optimize flow. In street form this engine first showed up in the 1999 GT3 in Europe producing 360hp out of a 3.6L engine that would rev to 8000rpm. It's last iteration in a street car the motor had grown to 4.0L, produced 500hp and would rev to 8600rpm. Because it was developed as a race motor it has proven to be extremely robust as a street motor. You won't see Mezger turbo motors as serious drag racers however there are several tuners out there making good, reliable power with them just not on the level of some of the other platforms for drag racing After riding in your car for a few laps i can say the GT3 motor is very stout. Now i need to talk Todd into putting another seat in and letting me ride in his 997 Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 i4 - B18, the K20 is better, but the B18 brought mad power for its time and size. i5 - Probably some audi shit i6 - 2JZ hands down v6 - Buick 3800 S/C. Not the BEST performance, but reliability is unreal. v8 - LSx v10 - they're all too expensive and stupid. v12 - see above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 i4 - B18, the K20 is better, but the B18 brought mad power for its time and size. i5 - Probably some audi shit i6 - 2JZ hands down v6 - Buick 3800 S/C. Not the BEST performance, but reliability is unreal. v8 - LSx v10 - they're all too expensive and stupid. v12 - see above Nice way to look at it, and I have to agree with your list. I'm not a fan of 4 cylinder performance so I'm really not up on what a good engine would be. I think for reliability Miata 1.6 and 1.8s run forever even when raced or even with moderate boost to the tune of 200wheel. Surprised no one mentioned the SR20 I thought those where supposed to be good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 B-series engines from the old Honda days were pretty dang amazing from an engineering standpoint, as well as the KA motors. i5 - Probably some audi shit I think 300hp from a stock Vulva S60R is pretty neat, and they sound better that Audi shit with exhaust stuffs Coyote 5.0's are amazing engines, even moreso once you get some air and fuel blowing through them. For the price though, a built LS1 is better in almost every way except dem sounds. LS2's are junk. Nothing beats the archaic brute force of an old carbed SBC though. They're just so simple and you can build them up any way you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 B-series engines from the old Honda days were pretty dang amazing from an engineering standpoint, as well as the KA motors. I think 300hp from a stock Vulva S60R is pretty neat, and they sound better that Audi shit with exhaust stuffs Coyote 5.0's are amazing engines, even moreso once you get some air and fuel blowing through them. For the price though, a built LS1 is better in almost every way except dem sounds. LS2's are junk. Nothing beats the archaic brute force of an old carbed SBC though. They're just so simple and you can build them up any way you like. Must still be a little salty about the TBSS, they aren't all junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) If you replace everything with aftermarket shit they can be good engines, sure.. but after mine shredded itself to pieces I found a ton of threads across the internet about weird oil starvation problems with them. Edited December 3, 2014 by Not Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I've always thought of the LS2 as the red headed step child of LS engines. My favorites have to be the LSX for the fact that they are among the best at just about any category you can look for in an engine (mod potential, na power, boosted power, reliability, cost, packaging, etc..). Although I am not at all a Honda fan I have to take it off to the B18 just because it was like the LSX of 4cyl fwd powerplants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Nice way to look at it, and I have to agree with your list. I'm not a fan of 4 cylinder performance so I'm really not up on what a good engine would be. I think for reliability Miata 1.6 and 1.8s run forever even when raced or even with moderate boost to the tune of 200wheel. Surprised no one mentioned the SR20 I thought those where supposed to be good? What was the Mazda engine all the festiva guys were going tard over? B6t or something like that? Those things put out some decent members with minimal effort. So did the turbo vans. Gotta give them props in the 4 banger realm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_claytor Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 4g63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 there should be two categories---n/a and boosted one motor that has not been mentioned:: mercedes 6.2 liter motor---this baby can make 622hp in the black series slr amg and rev to the moon. they also sound fantastic. i vow to own a vehicle with this motor in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 there should be two categories---n/a and boosted one motor that has not been mentioned:: mercedes 6.2 liter motor---this baby can make 622hp in the black series slr amg and rev to the moon. they also sound fantastic. i vow to own a vehicle with this motor in it. I've got a strange love for them as well. Like a Euro big block, that sounds like hell being unleashed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2highpsi Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 LSx 2JZ 4G63 VR38 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Gump 9 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 there should be two categories---n/a and boosted one motor that has not been mentioned:: mercedes 6.2 liter motor---this baby can make 622hp in the black series slr amg and rev to the moon. they also sound fantastic. i vow to own a vehicle with this motor in it. Just becareful about the head bolts problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Gen Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Like MoeJoe (Joe) said I love the rotaries (Miss mine). S54 - my current motor (Inline 6 BMW motor) * Would love to add forced induction LSX - Say no more Ferrari V12 (F140) - no experience, but looooove that sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Good way to tell the hipsters from the men looking at this one. Checking undercarriage made easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0n8 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 What was the Mazda engine all the festiva guys were going tard over? B6t or something like that? Those things put out some decent members with minimal effort. So did the turbo vans. Gotta give them props in the 4 banger realm. 1.8L BP or BP-T Used in Miatas, early Protege's, 323's & Escort GT's. They handle boost very well. Lots of love for the KL v6 also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bark Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 2JZ 5.0 coyote But I might be a little bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Nice way to look at it, and I have to agree with your list. I'm not a fan of 4 cylinder performance so I'm really not up on what a good engine would be. I think for reliability Miata 1.6 and 1.8s run forever even when raced or even with moderate boost to the tune of 200wheel. Surprised no one mentioned the SR20 I thought those where supposed to be good? 4 cylinder reliability? Don't even challenge the legend of the volvo b18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 1.8L BP or BP-T Used in Miatas, early Protege's, 323's & Escort GT's. They handle boost very well. Lots of love for the KL v6 also. That's the one. Some of the Chrysler 4's seem to take boost pretty well also. I'm not versed in 4 cylinder performance so it's not a fair call for me to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 i4 - 4efte. I've seen them have the boost cranked WAY up with nothing else done to them...then run forever. i4 - B18, the K20 is better, but the B18 brought mad power for its time and size. i5 - Probably some audi shit i6 - 2JZ hands down v6 - Buick 3800 S/C. Not the BEST performance, but reliability is unreal. v8 - LSx v10 - they're all too expensive and stupid. v12 - see above I like this list. For REALIABILITY and NOT performance I'd throw in the Jeep 4.0 H.O...but this is a performance list. 2JZ is tops IMO. Nothing beats the archaic brute force of an old carbed SBC though. They're just so simple and you can build them up any way you like. RIP Elliot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 LSX 2JZ 4G63/B16/k20 Coyote For the common man, thats the list right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Nice Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 For the common man, thats the list right there. No 4efte love from you? Traitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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