Geeto67 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 http://jalopnik.com/the-2016-cadillac-cts-v-is-crazier-than-any-hellcat-1745310237?utm_expid=66866090-68.FLd2bbXWSVeOIUIrpr9Fmw.0&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fjalopnik.com%2F Jalopnik has certainly come a long way since the days of Wes and I taking press cars street racing and getting our asses handed to us, feels more like a real car review....however I don't know if I can get behind the assertion that a car is "crazier" because you are less likely to expect it to be fast. I feel like this article should really be "the CTS-V is for grownups and the charger Hellcat is for that 45 year old dude who still collects star wars figures, listens to glam metal, and calls people "babe". CTS-V gives up 67hp to the hellcat from what people are telling me there is a lot of room left where as the hellkitty may be at it's ragged edge already. thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I would bet the Caddy still retains the better driveability and refinement all the car reviews rave about...even if it can hang. The Hellcats will still be all about tire shredding muscle and absurdity. My vote = NOT "crazier" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hellcats are picking up big numbers with just a tune and pullie swap. 706rwhp with just a tune. 781 with pullie, intake and tune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g42bRaC9Mvo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hellcat is the better bang for the buck if you want to be seen as the high class Redneck. The CTS-V is the real deal. That said, I'd take either but would really depend on what the deals are like. I was on Long Island a couple weeks back and saw a Hellcat Charger at a $20k premium over MSRP. For that money, I'd go Caddy. I've yet to drive the new Caddy but am afraid if I do, I'm going to be giving he wife the S4 and trading her van in on a V. Must. wait. for. a. couple. years.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted December 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hellcats are picking up big numbers with just a tune and pullie swap. 706rwhp with just a tune. 781 with pullie, intake and tune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g42bRaC9Mvo I agree those numbers are stout. I was talking with a buddy of mine recently who tunes a lot of turbo v8 cars and what he was saying is that there is just way more "room" for improvement in the LS platform than you see in the dodge. after the pully, the chip, and the intake you are starting to look at an engine that you can measure it's lifespan in days. maybe it's got enough to get to 850 hp but there are already 1200hp LSX street cars out there so.... I have to be honest, all this is starting to seem pointless. I love a stupid fast car as much as the next guy but after you cross the 500hp mark most of these modern muscle car chassis start to get un-driveable without heavy computerized stability assistance and buckets of talent and restraint. I'm not saying you couldn't drive a hellcat to the store for milk like it was a 2015 altima, I'm just saying the overwhelming marjoity of people probably don't have the self control to do it without having a "watch this" moment. I'm guilty of this too, a buddy lent me his ZL1 and all I wanted to do was hang the tail out every time I made a turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hellcat is the better bang for the buck if you want to be seen as the high class Redneck. The CTS-V is the real deal. That said, I'd take either but would really depend on what the deals are like. I was on Long Island a couple weeks back and saw a Hellcat Charger at a $20k premium over MSRP. For that money, I'd go Caddy. I've yet to drive the new Caddy but am afraid if I do, I'm going to be giving he wife the S4 and trading her van in on a V. Must. wait. for. a. couple. years.......... There are several hellcats at my local dealer priced at msrp (no markup) and they are sitting. With the caddy prices I've seen, I'd go hellcat based on the numbers, but tit for tat, I'd likely prefer the caddy even at a slightly higher price. Unfortunately I have yet to see a reasonably priced V around me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I passed a 2015 black on black Challenger yesterday. Shit made my pants tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco-REX Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 No coupe or wagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 a buddy lent me his ZL1 and all I wanted to do was hang the tail out every time I made a turn. Note to self, never let Kerry borrow my shit..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 The Hellcat - by it's own nature - is crazier than the CTS-V. My manager came in to Cleveland yesterday for client meetings. I've been having so much fun in the Lincoln I didn't think anything of driving my V. Went around NE Ohio, and when I dropped him off at the airport he wondered when I got the new Cadillac. I told him it was a 2007 that I drove the piss out of, showed him 92k on the odo. He said it drove better than his new 5-series. THAT'S the CTS-V: unassuming but well-put-together (at least if it's cared for) Said it before and I'll say it again: I love my CTS-V, and look forward to a used stick-shift ATS-V or CTS-V down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Was in the market for both of these cars last spring. All that power and rwd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Note to self, never let Kerry borrow my shit..... To be fair, that car was going to go sideways whether I wanted it to or not, the fact that I was delighted by this is almost irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 To be fair, that car was going to go sideways whether I wanted it to or not, the fact that I was delighted by this is almost irrelevant. Both are reasons I should never own a rwd car. [emoji5] I'd likely get in too much trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Both are reasons I should never own a rwd car. [emoji5] I'd likely get in too much trouble. You'd go through rear tires like water. Ask me how I know. 4-5 line locks, and power sliding any and all turns that it was safe to do so, and I've cashed my rear tires in 4600 miles. But DAMN were they fun miles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacfreak142 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I see the challenger as being the "crazier" one. As for potential, lt4 all day long. The dodge already uses a pretty decent size blower so i cant imagine swapping to a new one would do a whole lot. The lt4 on the other hand uses a much smaller unit. One company did nothing more than swap on a bigger blower, and even ran it at stock psi, but picked up right around 100 hp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Hellcat probably feels more exciting but the V would be much more refined IMO. More curious if any are going into LIMP mode like the Z06 from heat soak? Hellcat is the better bang for the buck if you want to be seen as the high class Redneck. The CTS-V is the real deal. That said, I'd take either but would really depend on what the deals are like. I was on Long Island a couple weeks back and saw a Hellcat Charger at a $20k premium over MSRP. For that money, I'd go Caddy. I've yet to drive the new Caddy but am afraid if I do, I'm going to be giving he wife the S4 and trading her van in on a V. Must. wait. for. a. couple. years.......... The only ones that are getting a premium from those that can't wait are the Challenger Hellcats, the Charger Hellcat you can drive almost anywhere and buy for MSRP all day. Some are going less if you shop.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Gump 9 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 I like what I see with the new CTS-V. Any local dealers have them in stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRTurbo04 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 I like what I see with the new CTS-V. Any local dealers have them in stock? Yes http://www.cadillacofdublin.com/VehicleDetails/new-2014-Cadillac-CTS_Sedan-3.6L_Twin_Turbo_V6_RWD_Vsport_Premium-Dublin-OH/2226998323 http://www.coughlinmarysvillegm.com/searchnew.aspx?year=&make=cadillac&model=cts-v+sedan&bodystyle=&price1=&price2=&trim=undefined&features=&hwympg1=&hwympg2=&mileage2= mother of god yes http://www.vosscadillac.com/VehicleSearchResults?search=new&location=&bodyType=&make=Cadillac&model=&trim=&minYear=&maxYear=&maxPrice= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagner Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Both cars are bad ass but they are different in approach. The CTS is like a pretty girl that is prim and proper, but the second you lay the wood to her she is a dirty slut that can suck the skank off Tara Reid and fuck like she is paid to do it. The Hellcat is the loud chick doing shots at the bar, flashing her tits and will be open to ass play later. Can't go wrong with either, just depends on how you want to get the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Both cars are bad ass but they are different in approach. The CTS is like a pretty girl that is prim and proper, but the second you lay the wood to her she is a dirty slut that can suck the skank off Tara Reid and fuck like she is paid to do it. The Hellcat is the loud chick doing shots at the bar, flashing her tits and will be open to ass play later. Can't go wrong with either, just depends on how you want to get the job done. I agree with your descriptions but am disappointed because based on the above when I wax my Audi I'm jerking off in the garage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 You should make a thread about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaronsToy Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Both cars are bad ass but they are different in approach. The CTS is like a pretty girl that is prim and proper, but the second you lay the wood to her she is a dirty slut that can suck the skank off Tara Reid and fuck like she is paid to do it. The Hellcat is the loud chick doing shots at the bar, flashing her tits and will be open to ass play later. Can't go wrong with either, just depends on how you want to get the job done. Wow you were in my head with this one this man speaks the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted December 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 Both cars are bad ass but they are different in approach. The CTS is like a pretty girl that is prim and proper, but the second you lay the wood to her she is a dirty slut that can suck the skank off Tara Reid and fuck like she is paid to do it. The Hellcat is the loud chick doing shots at the bar, flashing her tits and will be open to ass play later. Can't go wrong with either, just depends on how you want to get the job done. So what you are saying is...with the hellcat you are just more likely to end up in the shit. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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