College Football Thread v13.0

[Bigbird]

I find the lack of CFB talk this spring disturbing. Really sad to hear about Will Smith this morning and it made me remember I haven't seen anything in DR about football recently.

[BStowers023]

Yeah, really fucking sad... He was a great Buckeye. What makes it worse is that his family had to watch him die

[Orion]

Saw this yesterday. What the fuck, man. There is more to the story, I'm sure, but what would posses you to just shoot a guy and his wife in their car? Sad.

[LJ]

Saw this yesterday. What the fuck, man. There is more to the story, I'm sure, but what would posses you to just shoot a guy and his wife in their car? Sad.

 

The theory going around is kind of long but the cliff notes:

 

Hayes father was killed by police in 2005

 

Hayes sued NOLA PD and settled

 

Fast forward, Smith was good friends with the officer that killed Hayes father, and had dinner with him the night he was killed.

 

Hayes rear ends Smith, calls the police and gets out to confront Smith

 

Here is where the speculation begins

 

Hayes rear ends him on purpose, calls police to look like the good guy. Gets out with the intent of killing Smith, but knowing who he is, figures that Smith carries a gun. Smith unbuckles his seat belt to get out, Hayes shoots him. Hayes waits for the cops because he believes that they will find a gun in Smith's vehicle. No gun found, charged with murder.

 

Hayes lawyer is claiming that Hayes believed that Smith was reaching for a gun.

[LJ]

Apparently Smith was shot in the back. Did he try to cover his wife when Hayes pulled out the gun?

[Bigbird]

The theory going around is kind of long but the cliff notes:

 

Hayes father was killed by police in 2005

 

Hayes sued NOLA PD and settled

 

Fast forward, Smith was good friends with the officer that killed Hayes father, and had dinner with him the night he was killed.

 

Hayes rear ends Smith, calls the police and gets out to confront Smith

 

Here is where the speculation begins

 

Hayes rear ends him on purpose, calls police to look like the good guy. Gets out with the intent of killing Smith, but knowing who he is, figures that Smith carries a gun. Smith unbuckles his seat belt to get out, Hayes shoots him. Hayes waits for the cops because he believes that they will find a gun in Smith's vehicle. No gun found, charged with murder.

 

Hayes lawyer is claiming that Hayes believed that Smith was reaching for a gun.

 

Dude should fucking rot.

[jeffro]

The theory going around is kind of long but the cliff notes:

 

Hayes father was killed by police in 2005

 

Hayes sued NOLA PD and settled

 

Fast forward, Smith was good friends with the officer that killed Hayes father, and had dinner with him the night he was killed.

 

Hayes rear ends Smith, calls the police and gets out to confront Smith

 

Here is where the speculation begins

 

Hayes rear ends him on purpose, calls police to look like the good guy. Gets out with the intent of killing Smith, but knowing who he is, figures that Smith carries a gun. Smith unbuckles his seat belt to get out, Hayes shoots him. Hayes waits for the cops because he believes that they will find a gun in Smith's vehicle. No gun found, charged with murder.

 

Hayes lawyer is claiming that Hayes believed that Smith was reaching for a gun.

 

Still, go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

[LJ]

Still, go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

 

I think that is the part where Hayes was just HOPING that he had a gun on him, knowing who he was.

[Berto]

RIP.

 

Does anyone know if Scott (Black Supra) still is on the forum? (Will's Brother).

[Orion]

Wait, Pikey is Will Smith's brother?

[Berto]

False alarm, I was thinking Robert Smith. Pretty sure that's Pikey's Brother.

[Orion]

Ok, yeah...I think I remember that as well.

[Lauren]

Cardale can't keep his mouth shut and stop ranting on Twitter. NFL teams do not like a guy that can't keep his thoughts to themselves. It's going to cost him

[SpaceGhost]

Cardale can't keep his mouth shut and stop ranting on Twitter. NFL teams do not like a guy that can't keep his thoughts to themselves. It's going to cost him

 

Meh I don't think he is saying anything that isn't true. If you want to read a players thoughts that the NFL is most likely pissed about, DeAndre Levy is calling out the NFL and it's shenanigans on CTE:

 

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2016/03/30/deandre-levy-cte-detroit-lions/82420704/

 

"Being sidelined last year gave me a little different perspective, as opposed to when I'm playing. I get locked in and tune everything else out in the midst of the season. The last thing I want to think about while preparing or playing in a game is potential brain damage. This last year, I had a lot of hours in the training room and realized how normal injury is to us, as football players. I think about how we're almost numb to it because it's a part of the job. I became numb to the fact that CTE could be present in me. Like maybe my head buzzing a day after a game isn't normal. Maybe the emotional highs and lows of a football game/season and beyond aren’t normal. Maybe when I forget something, there's more to it than just forgetfulness. Disconnected thoughts, at times, might be a part of it. I know of and have heard many players talk about these same issues and if they relate to CTE.

"I think we, as players, have to acknowledge it and talk about it in a real way and demand answers. And talk about it now. I've heard people say they wouldn't let their kids play football; that says a lot about what current players think and feel about the safety of football. Compensation isn’t an excuse to hide or downplay the facts. We need to know the risks and the rewards. This is an area in which the league has failed its players. Not only never talking about the risks, but some people going a step further to deny and cover it up. It’s imperative to help make players, current and future, more aware of all of the challenges they may face as a result of the choice to play football. We need to have the opportunity to really understand what each other may be going through. It's scary to think I may have CTE.

 

"I'm going to pull a Jim Caldwell and drop a quote that resonates with me: 'Silence is an action.' That's why I feel the need to say something. If I say nothing, I'm condoning the misinformation that’s spreading. While the research of medical experts and doctors tells us there potentially is a direct link between football and CTE, voices continue to emerge telling us otherwise. And you have to question why. What IS the harm in being transparent about the depth of risks that accompany this sport?

"The only voices we have on the subject are the league, which, unfortunately, has shown it can't be trusted. So far, we’ve had a rheumatologist with questionable credentials telling us that there is no link between concussions and CTE, and aided in covering it up, yet is still employed by the NFL. I felt my initial questions about Elliot Pellman were fair, and every employee, fan and potential NFL player has the right to know the answer. They're still covering it up (not reporting 100 concussions, and, as of today, asking the New York Times to retract the story), and I have to question what else we will find out, years from now, that they are concealing. You can't move forward past this issue if the main culprit is still on payroll. I'm sure, if they fire him, he'll have a lot more to share about everything that went on. We just recently learned about them omitting 100 concussions as an attempt to downplay the dangers once again. I’m not asking for this game to be any less dangerous nor risky, I’m asking for there to be transparency about those risks and allow people to make their own, informed decisions. As I’ve stated before, I’m choosing to continue to play in spite of CTE or any other post-football health issue that may arise. But that choice doesn’t justify continued denial and deflection of this issue when we now know better and have the opportunity to do better.

 

"It’s unacceptable to prioritize the marketability and profitability of football over the real health risks associated with it. There have been scores of retired players coming forward with health issues, whether they’re related to CTE or not. We’ve found CTE in the brains of too many players upon their death. How can anyone, especially a team owner that has employed hundreds of players over the years, deny a link? It's true, we don't know a lot about this, but are they doing much to find answers? Are we going to continue to ignore even the slightest possibility that this is real? If players, your greatest asset, mattered, why would you not want to learn more?

"Players make billions for the league; wouldn’t learning more preserve the longevity of the game? It seems they’re operating in a fear that if the real consequences are known, the sport will be in danger. The major danger is failing to be transparent. Are players’ lives not in danger by covering up vital information? People love this game, and it’s important to U.S. culture. Why wouldn’t they invest in the well-being of the players to keep the game alive? They have endless resources to really be at the forefront of this, but instead, they just continue to question the validity of medical professionals and experts in the field. I'm no expert and neither are the owners. We have experts informing us, yet they continue to be ignored. ... We have doctors and researchers who dedicate their lives to learning about the brain saying that football and CTE are connected. But they ignore that and claim they're not so sure. We're not sure; let's further the research so we can be sure.

 

"I question whether the timing of Irsay's and Jerry Jones' comments indicate that this was discussed at the NFL owners meeting this month. Were they speaking for the whole or just themselves? My main problem with Irsay’s comments is that this isn't an opinion-based issue … it's medical experts stating facts.

"Training and rehab is going great. I have been doing everything in the weight room since a few weeks after the season ended. Last thing I have to do still is actually play football."

 

"I guess the same reason I'd climb on top of an airplane and ride it. I know the risks of camping in the Amazon almost 5 hours away from any town, city or hospital. Maybe I like the chance of beating the odds. Maybe I'm still in denial, thinking that the worst can't happen to me.

"A better answer, though, is that these are relatively new revelations for me. I feel like I put all this time and effort in, and I'd be stopping short and not walking away with what I earned. Not necessarily for me, but for my family. I'm in Year 8, so, to an extent, I'm closer to finishing what I started officially 23 years ago. I've put in a lot of hours, going back to the beginning of high school, when I really decided to go for this. Dreaming of it since little league -- long before I knew anything about concussions or the long-lasting effects of the collisions. Like, my damage potentially already is done. If so, I might as well secure comfort for my family so I leave with more than just a beat-up body. If I were at the beginning of my career, it's more likely that I'd be in Bhutan or somewhere already. I really do love the competition and the challenges that football provides. At this point, it's about making sure that anyone playing across all levels know the risks so that their decision isn't based on one-sided misinformation being provided by the league."

[airwg2189]

Cardale can't keep his mouth shut and stop ranting on Twitter. NFL teams do not like a guy that can't keep his thoughts to themselves. It's going to cost him

 

He's not wrong; I wish more student-athletes would come out and open up about the corrupt organization that is the NCAA. He's not dissing OSU, his teammates, his experience at the school, or even laughing at using college ball as a free stepping stone for the NFL. The NCAA absolutely exploits athletes for their profit.

[sol740]

The NCAA absolutely exploits athletes for their profit.

 

Also, no satellite camps because "Helping Student Athletes".

[BStowers023]

The NCAA is such a joke and it continues to prove that.

[Orion]

The NCAA is such a joke and it continues to prove that.

 

I still believe that the power 5 will eventually be self governed.

[airwg2189]

I still believe that the power 5 will eventually be self governed.

 

Agreed. If they could get the Big East/AAC (basketball) and Notre Dame involved, the NCAA would come crashing down rather quickly. I don't have numbers, but I imagine it's a very safe bet that P5, Big East, AAC and Notre Dame = a solid 75%+ of the NCAA's revenue.

[BStowers023]

Anyone go or watch the spring game? I was golfing so I missed it. I heard our receivers and d-line stood out.

[o0n8]

Watched parts on TV. D-line looked good but that could be the result of a bad o-line. Weber took some hits but got up every time.

[Orion]

I was encouraged by a lot of what I saw at the Spring game...however, the O-Line is going to be a source of real concern this season. Much like the 2014 season, we have one returning stud, and a bunch of new faces. Let's hope this season ends the same way that one did.

[Lauren]

That Baker one handed pick was really impressive. Crazy you guys had 100k at the spring game that's bonkers.

 

In Bama news the D is just as stout if not crazier then last season. Completely loaded. Our offense has a ton of top receivers and a good O line but zero at quarterback or running back. I feel this is going to be a bad year as a bama fan. The A game finished with a whopping 7-3 score

[Otis Nice]

ALABAMA ANNOUNCES — HOURS BEFORE THE DRAFT — ASSISTANT COACH LEAVING DUE TO ALLEGATIONS OF RECRUITING VIOLATIONS

 

Copied and pasted the title, hence the caps. Don't care to retype it. That'll take too much effort. I'll just type this long explanation as to why I didn't correct the caps instead.

 

Have a great evening.

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Perfect timing by them because no ones talking about it with the Tunsil/Ole Miss drama.