unfunnyryan Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 That's pretty F'dup. Have you notice that there are more and more OD now than ever? Do you think it's because of the Medics are now carrying stuff like Nar-can so addicts are more willing to try harder stuffs? Nope. Medics are carrying that shit to try to have a chance anymore, not the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectragod Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Nope. Medics are carrying that shit to try to have a chance anymore, not the other way around. Uhhh no, the latest rage..... naloxone parties, everyone goes out and buys a kit or two, then..... we have a heroin party with a designated person to revive those that OD. I have seen plenty of OD "victims", many had been brought back many times before the final fatal time.....it's pretty sad that such a drug can get a hold on people in such a way........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Uhhh no, the latest rage..... naloxone parties, everyone goes out and buys a kit or two, then..... we have a heroin party with a designated person to revive those that OD. That's not a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 You know shit is out of control when you hear public health officials say that everyone should carry a naloxone shot in their personal first aid kit. In Baltimore we believe that naloxone should be part of everyone’s medicine cabinet and everyone’s First Aid kit http://health.baltimorecity.gov/news/press-releases/2015-12-14-dr-leana-wen-applauds-state%E2%80%99s-decision-expand-access-opioid-overdose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Brandon, who was at the front desk at Westerville, Lawerence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BStowers023 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Brandon, who was at the front desk at Westerville, Lawerence? Yep. He was the original person to find him. I was at the urinal and he walked into the stall next to it and I heard him say "Oh my god." I flushed and walked to the sink and he came out and asked if I could look and see if I thought the kid was alive. I looked over and said no. We got the locked door open and there he was, just laying there limp. Pretty awful to see. I saw aluminum foil under his wallet and when the officer arrived he said possible heroin overdose. It was confirmed today, I believe that is was in fact a heroin OD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshymkiw83 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 That's not a thing. How do you know it isn't a thing? Do you know everything there is to know? I would honestly tend to believe it is a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Alex- Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 How do you know it isn't a thing? Do you know everything there is to know? He used to be a heroin addict in New York. Rubbed elbows with the best of the best when it comes to heroin specialists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshymkiw83 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 He used to be a heroin addict in New York. Rubbed elbows with the best of the best when it comes to heroin specialists. If you're serious - I am glad he got his life straight and worked out, but just because it wasn't a thing maybe when he was doing it, doesn't mean it isn't a thing now. I still don't doubt that it is something groups of people would do/try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 How do you know it isn't a thing? Do you know everything there is to know? I would honestly tend to believe it is a thing. because it is the absurd kind of rumor that gets made up surrounding things like this to add a bit of salaciousness to it. Do I believe that people around this at risk behavior are carrying naloxone more often? yes. Do I believe that people would be inclined to do this stuff in groups? kinda, but maybe only slightly more so than in the past. Do I believe that addicted people are that organized and flush with cash to host a party and all chip in and find a responsible person that they trust to revive them? maybe that happened once with a bunch of college kids but I highly doubt it's a regular occurrence. A Narcan kit costs between $20-$40 (some kits are as high at $60 depending on what's in them) and requires a prescription. It doesn't get "cheaper" in the black market and is way more expensive than the heroin it is being used to fight. If you're serious - I am glad he got his life straight and worked out, but just because it wasn't a thing maybe when he was doing it, doesn't mean it isn't a thing now. No he's not serious. In high school, college, and law school I used to get my community service credit hours by working at various clinics including drug rehabilitation centers. I haven't volunteered for some time but I still have friends in these places, and to be honest the whole thing kind of fascinates me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0n8 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Interesting read. Sorry OP you were in that situation. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/16/health/huntington-heroin/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Narcan does not require a script in many states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geeto67 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Narcan does not require a script in many states In ohio you can get it from a pharmacist but they can only dispense to the following individuals: http://pharmacy.ohio.gov/Documents/Pubs/Naloxone/Pharmacist/Guidance%20Document%20-%20Dispensing%20of%20Naloxone%20without%20a%20Prescription.pdf http://pharmacy.ohio.gov/Documents/Pubs/Naloxone/Pharmacist/Sample%20Naloxone%20Dispensing%20Protocol%20for%20Pharmacies.pdf http://pharmacy.ohio.gov/Pubs/NaloxoneResources.aspx An individual who there is reason to believe is experiencing or at risk of experiencing an opioid-related overdose; A family member, friend, or other person in a position to assist an individual who there is reason to believe is at risk of experiencing an opioid-related overdose; or A peace officer as defined in section 2921.51 of the Revised Code. Joe blow can't just walk into CVS and get a kit for his restaurant because he suspects all the busboys are high. There is also some paperwork that needs to be signed which believe it or not can be a deterrent to people trying to keep their addiction secret (such as divorced parents who have custody of children, or people out on parole). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Hmm... I'll just leave this right here: “By making naloxone available without a prescription, we are making it easier for Pennsylvania families and caregivers to help their loved ones by having it on hand in case it’s needed,” said Kimberly Treece, Walgreens Regional Vice President in Pennsylvania. “As a pharmacy we are here to help people, and we are committed to making naloxone more accessible in the communities we serve.” PA isn't too far from Ohio, just sayin...... I truly believe that those who partake and are revived over and over fear death less and less because this stuff is so readily available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Yep. He was the original person to find him. I was at the urinal and he walked into the stall next to it and I heard him say "Oh my god." I flushed and walked to the sink and he came out and asked if I could look and see if I thought the kid was alive. I looked over and said no. We got the locked door open and there he was, just laying there limp. Pretty awful to see. I saw aluminum foil under his wallet and when the officer arrived he said possible heroin overdose. It was confirmed today, I believe that is was in fact a heroin OD. That sucks man, can't unsee that kind of stuff. Sorry man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Uhhh no, the latest rage..... naloxone parties, everyone goes out and buys a kit or two, then..... we have a heroin party with a designated person to revive those that OD. I have seen plenty of OD "victims", many had been brought back many times before the final fatal time.....it's pretty sad that such a drug can get a hold on people in such a way........... Considering that shit strips all the opiod receptors in your brain clean and the people wake up in a rage feeling like death, I'm sure it's all the rage. A friend of mine from highschool died just today from OD. This marks the 2nd person I know dead from an OD in the last 3 months. 10th I've known from highschool since graduation. He was one of the most generous people I've known but got caught up with addiction because the drugs were better to him than a lot of people were. RIP Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 The more we resist natural selection, the more tainted the gene pool gets. Let it go- let them die. Whatever factor lead to their condition is irrelevant. The next cure for cancer wont be coming from someone who once OD's on heroin. You don't contribute, you get voted off the island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unfunnyryan Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 The more we resist natural selection, the more tainted the gene pool gets. Let it go- let them die. Whatever factor lead to their condition is irrelevant. The next cure for cancer wont be coming from someone who once OD's on heroin. You don't contribute, you get voted off the island. If you completely forgo the arts/entertainment industry, maybe. Addiction doesn't discriminate, it can affect people of all intelligence. It is a disease after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 If you completely forgo the arts/entertainment industry, maybe. Addiction doesn't discriminate, it can affect people of all intelligence. It is a disease after all. Again, No ture artist/architect is OD'ing on heroin. You may lose a bad tatoo artist here or there. No one will shed a tear over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectragod Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 because it is the absurd kind of rumor that gets made up surrounding things like this to add a bit of salaciousness to it. Do I believe that people around this at risk behavior are carrying naloxone more often? yes. Do I believe that people would be inclined to do this stuff in groups? kinda, but maybe only slightly more so than in the past. Do I believe that addicted people are that organized and flush with cash to host a party and all chip in and find a responsible person that they trust to revive them? maybe that happened once with a bunch of college kids but I highly doubt it's a regular occurrence. A Narcan kit costs between $20-$40 (some kits are as high at $60 depending on what's in them) and requires a prescription. It doesn't get "cheaper" in the black market and is way more expensive than the heroin it is being used to fight. No he's not serious. In high school, college, and law school I used to get my community service credit hours by working at various clinics including drug rehabilitation centers. I haven't volunteered for some time but I still have friends in these places, and to be honest the whole thing kind of fascinates me. Maybe a rumor in your world, we are seeing it more and more prevalent in the Dayton area as of the last couple of months. And it's not just college kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectragod Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 If you completely forgo the arts/entertainment industry, maybe. Addiction doesn't discriminate, it can affect people of all intelligence. It is a disease after all. It's a choice, it only becomes a disease after you make the bad choice to start using, then it becomes an addiction, people need to start accepting responsibility for their own actions. What's next, we start feeling sorry for people who kill themselves playing Russian roulette with a fully loaded gun? Because they are into that type of thing? Sorry you lost a couple friends to this crap, but it is all about life choices, the goal should be to get people to never start using this or to get off of it, making excuses won't accomplish a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 I will never understand why people choose to try this stuff in the first place. Seriously. Name one single person whose life has improved after starting heroin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 This just in, Pot is for parents these days. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/02/middle-aged-parents-are-now-more-likely-to-smoke-weed-than-their-teenaged-kids/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitgeist57 Posted September 24, 2016 Report Share Posted September 24, 2016 BEN IS NOT MIDDLE-AGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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