dmagicglock Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 when I read stories like this I can't help but be reminded that America is going to hell in a handbag... quickhttp://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/14/criminal-prayer-case-stirs-protests/?feat=home_headlines&this shouldn't even be tying up our judicial system, let alone jail time? gtfo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilTwin Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 So let me get this straight, if asked to pray at school I can't b/c that might offend someone, yet isn't that restricting my rights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 So let me get this straight, if asked to pray at school I can't b/c that might offend someone, yet isn't that restricting my rights?you dont have a right to free speech and freedom to express you faith when it comes to public settings. i'm still waiting for See You At The Pole to come under fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmagicglock Posted August 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 you dont have a right to free speech and freedom to express you faith when it comes to public settings. i'm still waiting for See You At The Pole to come under fire.shhhhh don't give them any ideas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrjess0815 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Thats ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 this shouldn't even be tying up our judicial system, let alone jail time? gtfoits jail time for violating the terms of the previous settlement. that would happen to anyone. if you agree to the terms of a suit, and then go violate those terms, you can go to jail too. the original suit terms:bar all school employees from promoting or sponsoring prayers during school-sponsored events; holding school events at church venues when a secular alternative was available; or promoting their religious beliefs or attempting to convert students in class or during school-sponsored events. IMO if you want to pray in school, thats fine. do it in a private school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 For what it's worth students can pray in public school all they want. The ACLU isn't doing anything wrong here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax33 Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 It would be nice if people actually used reason in their life instead of superstition. I could never grasp the concept of prayer anyways. If there is a god then he/she either created the conditions that would require someone to pray(suffering, uncertainty) either out of malice or perhaps to remind us that we fucked up in The Garden Of Eden. Not to mention the fact that if you believe in the myth of the human soul, praying matters very little since when you die, you will be taken away to an eternal paradise which if it exists, makes your life on Earth meaningless. What is a short span of time, say 80yrs, compared to an eternal existence after death? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 And who wants virgin pussy in the afterlife anyways? I'd much rather have some experienced whores. Oh wait..wrong religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMax33 Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I've already tried that route and now I have an itch that won't go away...I wonder if Jesus can turn wine into penicillin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoosego Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) its jail time for violating the terms of the previous settlement. that would happen to anyone. if you agree to the terms of a suit, and then go violate those terms, you can go to jail too. the original suit terms:bar all school employees from promoting or sponsoring prayers during school-sponsored events; holding school events at church venues when a secular alternative was available; or promoting their religious beliefs or attempting to convert students in class or during school-sponsored events. IMO if you want to pray in school, thats fine. do it in a private school.I agree, you'll get a better education that way too.... public education sucks on ice!!! I wouldn't send my kids to public school if I was broke, homeless, and dying.... I'd find a way to get them the BEST education in the land....and while we are at it QUIT taking MY money to fund this crap institution!!! I believe in GOD so therefore my money shouldn't go to fund public education, it'd be used to promote my Beliefs I insist.... Edited August 17, 2009 by cmoosego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I believe in GOD so therefore my money shouldn't go to fund public education, it'd be used to promote my Beliefs I insist....I have no problem with anyone believing what they want, but that statement doesn't make sense to me. Could be the way I'm reading it, I dunno... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoosego Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I have no problem with anyone believing what they want, but that statement doesn't make sense to me. Could be the way I'm reading it, I dunno...it'd kinda be like taking a lobbyist's money ( at least that's how I see it) once you take my money I expect you to run the school as I would have it run.... I think that's a fair expectation considering how much we all dump ( literally) into the education system.... it should be run as the "funding" demands.... I just don't like the way they cloud up education with all the added crap, and kids aren't getting educated.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I'm not sure what stuff you're referring to is clouding up kids' education in public schools. I think the major reason education in general isn't as good as it should be (this includes some private schools) is because the standards are low. We don't teach our children anything difficult in school; the levels of math, science and literature are all way below what they are capable of learning. They aren't pushed to learn things that might not be easy to understand. It seems as if some shiatty lowest common denominator has to be met so someone's precious little snow flake doesn't get their feelings hurt when they don't succeed or when they actually have to work at something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 IMO if you want to pray in school, thats fine. do it in a private school.if you want to pray in school, you're welcome to it, but you do it on your own time (like the meeting at the pole) and it shouldn't be a part of the alotted class time or initiated by the faculty/staff...For what it's worth students can pray in public school all they want. The ACLU isn't doing anything wrong here.Exactly.how would you feel if the faculty/staff was hosting prayers for other religions? Hosting prayers to allah/zeus/quetzacoatl/satan during school functions? I believe you'd be pretty pissed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyco1 Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 I'd imagine that there would be a huge outcry by these same people that say this is BS if a Muslim teacher had the kids kneeling toward Mecca and praying to Allah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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