that dude Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Ahhh yes, Union Work.... because what we can't do for $1,000 we can hire union to do it for $5,000The usefulness unions went away in the 21st century and long before... but hey, flame on umm sure..please tell me a non union contractor that can even post up the bonding and ins...as well as hundereds of thousands of dollars a week in payroll.idiot.i dont suck dick for nickels nor do i work for them. i earn damn near every penny i make. if its so easy come on aboard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 where were these debates a week or month ago?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Without a hesitation. Unions were useful when companies could do things like lock workers in, force them to work in unsafe conditions etc etc....Just because you've been working for 25 years doesn't mean you should be paid a set amount, that's why we ended up with janitors at GM making 6 figures.Seriously, unions aren't needed anymore, all they do is create an environment where people can group bargain... you all claim free market... unless it means you may get paid lessidiot. take your blinders off and do your homework before you bash someone. what do you do for a living likwid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodyman Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 I agree that at one point unions served a major purpose. They created equality in the work place (so to speak). But, on the other hand, I agree that they are over-rated now. Some of them are just using the unions to take advantage. Regardless of how we look at it, it has caused issues in the U.S. There are too many people that do not take pride in there work these days, and just expect a paycheck. That sucks! I think that everyone should be paid based on experience, performance, and attendance. Things that really matter. I do agree that there needs to be some type of guidelines set for employers as well. But, all that being said, I can somewhat see both sides of this issue.P.S. I hate the fact that the casinos were approved! Here comes the "B.S" to our state!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 idiot. take your blinders off and do your homework before you bash someone. what do you do for a living likwid?I didn't personally attack you Just your way of thinking about work :popcorn: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 << I think that everyone should be paid based on experience, performance, and attendance. Things that really matter>>There is a major welding manufacturer in Euclid and Mentor ( red welding equipment ) that pays majority of workers using the above method, piecework. You get paid by what you produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 where were these debates a week or month ago??My view on unions aren't relative to the casinos in OH. I dont agree with them but I'm glad that it will provide work for ALOT of displaced workers.I agree that at one point unions served a major purpose. They created equality in the work place (so to speak). But, on the other hand, I agree that they are over-rated now. Some of them are just using the unions to take advantage. Regardless of how we look at it, it has caused issues in the U.S. There are too many people that do not take pride in there work these days, and just expect a paycheck. That sucks! I think that everyone should be paid based on experience, performance, and attendance. Things that really matter. I do agree that there needs to be some type of guidelines set for employers as well. But, all that being said, I can somewhat see both sides of this issue.P.S. I hate the fact that the casinos were approved! Here comes the "B.S" to our state!!I will agree that there are ALOT of unions that have out lived their usefullness. But not all of them. So I ask that you and others not categorize all unions as being the evil that destroys America because it's just not true.HA! Maybe if you had a union to fight for you then you could be a supervisor :-Dnow THAT was on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 likwid- its all good, im not mad. we all have opinions like we have assholes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I'm an asshole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 I'm an assholemaybe we should start a group on here: assholes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixxie750 Posted November 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 it would get turned off. Assholes that is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 ^ much like the Hookers & Blow social group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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that dude Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 ^ much like the Hookers & Blow social group.im in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 im inYou missed it. It's already been wiped out. Though I'm not sure why, and really not sure that I care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 You missed it. It's already been wiped out. Though I'm not sure why, and really not sure that I care.well i just started one. hookers and blowedit- didnt know one ever exisited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 well i just started one. hookers and blowedit- didnt know one ever exisitedI started one last week, it disappeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 i guess you dont know the right peeps on here bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAMBUSA Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 i guess you dont blow the right peeps on here brofixed, with all due respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 fixed, with all due respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted November 5, 2009 Report Share Posted November 5, 2009 it would get turned off. Assholes that is.... sam is turned on by assholes........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 work related- just got offered a sub foremans position today forthe second phase. its an extra 2.00 an hr, but i dont know if i want the headaches. id rather be the right hand man, pusher i think. plus side is i will/could stay working longer if nothing is poppin as the job nears the end. be one of the last to get the axe. hmm any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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