hue jass Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 One thing you'll want to consider is the viewfinder. Or, how you get to frame up your shots. Our cameras have lost their viewfinders! Their all gone, replaced with LCD screens and LCD eye finders. Everybody holds their camera out in front of them and tries to line up a shot. Trouble is, its always washed out and everything is so small extended from your eye like that. If you want to get better photographs, you have to compose better pictures. A DSLR has a real live 'Through The Lens" viewfinder. When you look in there it's like looking at your image on a wall sized plasma screen. You're actually looking through the taking lens to compose the shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbctown Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) It sounded like he was looking for a great P&S rather than the SLR's he was listing off.Very true but I dont want to buy a new camera ever time I want to upgrade. I would rather buy a camera and be able to grow with it. If I spend 700-1000 for a camera in 2 years I dont want to get a new one. Edited November 11, 2009 by jbctown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Made my order today, returning an old Canon RebelG (35mm) for a Rebel XS... camera, shipping and tax came to $400...I basically got $200 for my old film camera! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchmuckGirl Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Made my order today, returning an old Canon RebelG (35mm) for a Rebel XS... camera, shipping and tax came to $400...I basically got $200 for my old film camera!I just got a Rebel XS about 3 weeks ago. My point and shoot was either lost or stolen, not sure which, and I felt inspired to upgrade to an entry level DSLR. Loving it so far, but I really need to learn more about the manual operations.Speaking of which..... can anyone recommend a good book that will teach me that kind of stuff? I'm hoping that there is something that is not too technical but still informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-flores Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I just got a Rebel XS about 3 weeks ago. My point and shoot was either lost or stolen, not sure which, and I felt inspired to upgrade to an entry level DSLR. Loving it so far, but I really need to learn more about the manual operations.Speaking of which..... can anyone recommend a good book that will teach me that kind of stuff? I'm hoping that there is something that is not too technical but still informative.Yes but I can't remember the name of it or the author.... I will let you know when I get home. Or ask fusion b/c ge is the one who reconended it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I just got a Rebel XS about 3 weeks ago. My point and shoot was either lost or stolen, not sure which, and I felt inspired to upgrade to an entry level DSLR. Loving it so far, but I really need to learn more about the manual operations.Speaking of which..... can anyone recommend a good book that will teach me that kind of stuff? I'm hoping that there is something that is not too technical but still informative.http://www.amazon.com/Photography-Dummies-Russell-Hart/dp/0764550659They always make really good books, I can dig through our books and see if I have anything left from my photography courses but I doubt there will be really good information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Do a bit of searching on teh internetz.... the basics never change, you basically want to know.Shutter speed and it's effects on motion and detailAperture and it's effects on lightHow shutter speed and aperture work togetherISO differencesThose 4 subjects will get you a good way into the basics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) just called canon... will be trading my rebel for a rebel xs for 350Digital Rebel, or film Rebel?Opps, I see it now, I didn't read all the way through.... I think I gave the Typing Cat grief over that one day, and now I FAIL..... Edited November 11, 2009 by jporter12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Digital Rebel, or film Rebel?Opps, I see it now, I didn't read all the way through.... I think I gave the Typing Cat grief over that one day, and now I FAIL..... You know what they say, a million monkeys on a million typewriters... or 1 cat at a keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I'm trying to figure out if jbc ever got the answer he was looking for in this thread Yes but I can't remember the name of it or the author.... I will let you know when I get home. Or ask fusion b/c ge is the one who reconended it to me.Understand Exposure by Bryan Peterson. One of the best books you can pick up when new to photography. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 I'm trying to figure out if jbc ever got the answer he was looking for in this thread Understand Exposure by Bryan Peterson. One of the best books you can pick up when new to photography.Thread hijacks are the norm around here, especially lately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Aperture and it's effects on lightAnd it's effects on DoF.For the OP. If you are still here reading our blather and still camera shopping I suggest the website below to do camera comparisons. Very nice database, you can compare models side by side. Tons of reviews. Narrow it down to two or three then go to the store and see which one feels best in your hands.http://www.dpreview.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Thread hijacks are the norm around here, especially lately! This is totally not a threadjack! My man asked if he needed an SLR, we are discussing why he DOESN'T need an SLR....Trust me, I know a lot about threadjacking ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'03VstarSH Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 This is totally not a threadjack! My man asked if he needed an SLR, we are discussing why he DOESN'T need an SLR....Trust me, I know a lot about threadjacking ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Only a communist would post a picture like that, that is obviously created in China and allowed to be imported by Barack HUSSEIN Obama.Also, abortion should be illegal for all, the moon landing was a hoax, and the earth is flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 And it's effects on DoF.For the OP. If you are still here reading our blather and still camera shopping I suggest the website below to do camera comparisons. Very nice database, you can compare models side by side. Tons of reviews. Narrow it down to two or three then go to the store and see which one feels best in your hands.http://www.dpreview.com/This man speaks the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Nikon D40x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Reason #1 being I broke a Canon in 8 weeks shooting professionally. 8 weeks. And yes, I've been drinking. But not when shooting- just now though...Which body did you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Nikon D40xSorry Zach- I shoot Nikon professionally- and would not suggest that over the others mentioned. The Canon 50D is a different creature altogether, with a magnesium alloy body and a 15mp sensor. The 40D is certainly worth a look too, as it's price dropped with the addition of the 50D. Same metal body, but the ISO isn't as high and the sensor is 10mp.The Olympus is a niche camera, with limited lens and accessory options. Nothing near Canon or Nikon. Pros stick with the big two for a reason.The D5000 finally addressed my issue with the D40, D40X, and D60. A three point autofocus system. Any photographer knows the rule of thirds, and this focusing system totally ignores the four major compositional focusing points. Complete fail. The D5000 steps up and has 11 point autofocus. Much better, plus you might be able to use the HD video on it. For me, the video and tilt screen don't mean much, but you be the judge there.www.dpreview.com is the best unbiased source of information there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Which body did you have?Canon 10D. Those were the nighmare years of digital photography. The Nikon D100 was crap too. 6mp, noisy, slow, three shot raw buffer and a minute lockup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Real men use real cameras.... just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFM Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Real men use real cameras.... just sayingUsed to shoot Holiday Inn brochures using a 4x5 Sinar,transparency film, a Speedotron 4803 (4,000ws) strobe system, along with Scheider 90mm, 150mm, and 210mm lenses. Oh, and a lot of Polaroid film. I remember those days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Sorry Zach- I shoot Nikon professionally- and would not suggest that over the others mentioned. The Canon 50D is a different creature altogether, with a magnesium alloy body and a 15mp sensor. The 40D is certainly worth a look too, as it's price dropped with the addition of the 50D. Same metal body, but the ISO isn't as high and the sensor is 10mp.The Olympus is a niche camera, with limited lens and accessory options. Nothing near Canon or Nikon. Pros stick with the big two for a reason.The D5000 finally addressed my issue with the D40, D40X, and D60. A three point autofocus system. Any photographer knows the rule of thirds, and this focusing system totally ignores the four major compositional focusing points. Complete fail. The D5000 steps up and has 11 point autofocus. Much better, plus you might be able to use the HD video on it. For me, the video and tilt screen don't mean much, but you be the judge there.www.dpreview.com is the best unbiased source of information there is.Yeah but if he's new to dSLRs starting with something on the same level as the D40x or there about is probably better than starting at the level of the 40D/50D, cost and of course what he wants to shoot is going to play a huge role in what dSLR if any he gets.Canon has the following breakdown which aligns with Nikon's decently well, although I think the lower end Canons are probably better than Nikon's.xxxxD - 1000D (APS-C): $500 entry level consumerxxxD - 500D (APS-C): $800 consumer xxD - 50D (APS-C): $1,100 prosumerxd - 7D (APS-C)/5DII (FF), $1700/$2700 entry pro 1DIII (APS-H)/1DIV (APS-H)/1DsIII (FF), $4,000/$5,000/$7,000 proThat's not even considering lenses yet.DP Review is a great place to start for most things as long as you avoid the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Not sure if i should start another thread and sorry for butting in but with all these edumacted camera folks, whats a good camera/video camera, light weight, compact, simple to use and under $500 Nothing fancy but my vhs-c has got to be replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Not sure if i should start another thread and sorry for butting in but with all these edumacted camera folks, whats a good camera/video camera, light weight, compact, simple to use and under $500 Nothing fancy but my vhs-c has got to be replaced.Might want to start a new thread on this one, I would like to look into the video camers stuff as well. I don't want to use my SLR for video, else I would have not gotten the 40D, and waited for the 7D. That is a pretty sweet camera fo sho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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