HB191 = Street Racing = Oh Shit

[Anden]

The definition of street racing.

Sec. 4511.251. (A)(1) As used in this section and section 2492

4510.036 of the Revised Code, "street racing" means any of the 2493

following: 2494

(a) The operation of two or more vehicles from a point side 2495

by side at accelerating speeds in a competitive attempt to 2496

out-distance each other or the; 2497

(b) The operation of one or more vehicles over a common 2498

selected course, from the same point to the same point, wherein 2499

timing is made of the participating vehicles involving competitive 2500

accelerations or speeds; 2501

© Any exhibition of speed or acceleration that is 2502

inconsistent with the normal operation of a vehicle on a public 2503

road, street, or highway. Persons 2504

(2) Persons rendering assistance or encouragement in any form 2505

or manner to such competitive use of vehicles shall be equally 2506

charged as the participants. The 2507

(3) The operation of two or more vehicles side by side either 2508

at speeds in excess of prima-facie lawful speeds established by 2509

divisions (B)(1)(a) to (B)(8) of section 4511.21 of the Revised 2510

Code or rapidly accelerating from a common starting point to a 2511

speed in excess of such prima-facie lawful speeds shall be 2512

prima-facie evidence of street racing. 2513

(B) No person shall participate in street racing upon any 2514

public road, street, or highway in this state. 2515

All I see is don't act like a tard.

[Steve Butters]

all i see is

The bill expands the definition of "street racing" to also include "any exhibition of speed or acceleration that is inconsistent with the normal operation of a vehicle on a public road, street, or highway."

[jbot]

why do we need to give any more excuses for tax collection?

[Steve Butters]

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[jagr]

We will all be safe from these potential laws if we rode Harleys.

Jussayin'.

[Harb67]

So how do we start fighting this?

[scottb]

We will all be safe from these potential laws if we rode Harleys.

Jussayin'.

So, to be lawful, I am now "Bike-curious"?

[jagr]

Or just go Full Fag.

But seriously this is bullshit. This is the kind of shit that makes me wanna show up at a mofuggas house and hurt someones feelings.

[scottb]

It is way over kill.......

[kawi kid]

the one about threads on here seems to effect our freedom of speech?

[jagr]

TIme for everyone to pony up and join the AMA. Um sure this won't sit well with them.

[jporter12]

Even IF this would pass, how many NON-DICKHEAD LEO's are going to do anything different than they do now? MOST of them that I know personally will probably not do anything different than now, unless you're being a dumbass and deserve worse, then this will just give them something else to throw at squids!

[max power]

What would you say is the ratio of dickhead to non-dickhead LEO's?

[jagr]

I know that asshole CPD Freeway Patrol motherfucker will take a shitload of bikes.

I can't remember his name.

[smashweights]

if that passes, guess I'll just start running. they're taking the bike anyway.

+1, they're pretty much saying when i blast off down the entrance ramp to 71 in the morning cause i like to get up to highway speed quickly that they'll impound the bike?

So who determines how hard one is allowed to brake? Accelerate? Seems like a lot of potential for abusive cops.

don't be silly, they'll have a dual purpose speedometer/accelerometer. Better start making signs "Accel. Limit: 100mph/h"

[RFM]

By definition of that bill, I'm an outlaw street racer. Although I rarely go more than 10mph over the speed limit.

[jporter12]

I don't see it passing anyway. It seems to me that it's just another attempt at wringing the life out of us, turning us into drones.... Uh, oh. Twice in 12 hours that I've used that drone reference....

[fusion]

If I had more time I would read through the whole thing, but don't the changes surround seriously injuring or killing someone. Are there changes to the standard code for street racing as just a violation? Maybe I just missed it.

[V4junkie]

Yep you missed it. The charges for injuring/killing someone are heavier, but it modifies the current definition of "street racing" to include acceleration, braking, or cornering above whatever the LEO might consider "normal use." So if I'm going down an empty backroad and a cop hears me coming with my engine anywhere above, let's say, 4k rpm and accelerating, I could be hauled in for street racing whether or not I was really over the speed limit or driving recklessly.

[jhaag]

We will all be safe from these potential laws if we rode Harleys.

Jussayin'.

thats what 'they' want!

if you try to run all you'll be doing is making a lot of noise, while you dont get away, and get tagged with a noise violation, in addition to the 'exhibition of speed'......

but, you could also argue that you just saved countless lives with all the noise you just created with your loud pipes.....

cheeky bastards

[fusion]

Yup you're right I found it. I hadn't read slowly enough through the bottom part. Stupid job trying to make me work and all.

This doesn't read out of the norm though., "© Any exhibition of speed or acceleration that is inconsistent with the normal operation of a vehicle on a public road, street, or highway." That's the type of phrasing I thought has always been used.

I'll have to read and see if there's something else I'm missing.

The part I find a little too vague is the section on nitrous. I'm not sure, "use nitrous oxide in a motor vehicle that the person operates on a public road, street, or highway in this state." is defined well enough. What does "use" mean in this case? Actual use of the nitrous or merely installing it?

[Disclaimer]

How are they even going to find the NOS, drop the tank and test the gas?

[jporter12]

How are they even going to find the NOS, drop the tank and test the gas?

That only works on Gixxers.... And only for squids...

[fusion]

That only works on Gixxers.... And only for squids...

Isn't that a bit redundant?

[jporter12]

Isn't that a bit redundant?

I guess I'm just not as sarcastic as usual this morning, and was holding that part back.... But yes, I believe they are the same thing.