Harb67 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Hmmmmmmmmmm........we have enough laws already defining racing and illegal street riding, this change is totally unnecessary. That being said, I can easily see how cops that are punks (I'm sure its just in Mt. Vernon, not anywhere else in the state or mount vernon) that would abuse it. Case in point - I got a ticket a few years back from one of mount vernon's finest for running a red light. Law states that if the light turns from yellow to red while car in in the intersection, car has the right to finish crossing the box. Problem is I saw the light turn from yellow to red (in my rear view mirror) after I was completely through the intersection. Dooshbag says 'I wouldn't have stopped you but someone looked at me like I should do something' (I kid you not his exact words). I went to court to fight the ticket and the judge found in favor of the cop even though he was in the wrong. Why do I mention this? To show how easily the changes give punk cops like this one too much power. 2 years previous to that ticket this same officer grilled me and a friend about riding our bikes - we just came back into town from working 2nd shift. We rode our bikes to his house, parked them in his garage, didn't see the cop the whole way. He drives up to the garage, calls us out on the mic, and starts grilling us - not for speeding, not for running a stop sign or light, not for improper lane change, just simply because he though we accelerated too fast from a stop. Should I lose my bike that I spent my hard earned money on, time out of my life that I would never get back just because some cop had someone stare him down?? Heck no bad cop no donut!!!!!We have a winner. This is the sort of stuff I'm afraid of. Any time a cop gets to make a judgment call, I'm afraid. Not because cops are all terrible people who kill babies and shoot sportbike riders, but because cops are human and are inherently flawed. And you can be absolutely certain that I will never give a cop the benefit of the doubt, because I'm pretty sure that they view us in the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Casper told me today that exactly 2 people were killed last year due to street racing. 2. How many were killed by falling branches in that wind storm?More than 2 I can tell you. So we should prolly outlaw wind storms and leave the other laws as they are as they must be working. Heres another how many moorsickleists were killed and nobody was charged? I do believe that is illegal too. Sry. RantOff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisty Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 - you can be the only car/bike on the road and still be found guilty of street racing.WOW this just made me pee myself a little. ROFLMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Casper told me today that exactly 2 people were killed last year due to street racing. 2. How many were killed by falling branches in that wind storm?More than 2 I can tell you. So we should prolly outlaw wind storms and leave the other laws as they are as they must be working. Heres another how many moorsickleists were killed and nobody was charged? I do believe that is illegal too. Sry. RantOff.i know of one guy killed by a branch just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 got a responce but nothing too excitingDear Tyler Butera, Thanks for sharing your concerns. I will keep them in mind. This bill has not gotten much attention so far in the Senate. Sincerely yours, Dale Miller, State Senator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 got a responce but nothing too excitingDear Tyler Butera,Thanks for sharing your concerns. I will keep them in mind. This bill has not gotten much attention so far in the Senate.Sincerely yours,Dale Miller,State SenatorNot much attention? Only because nobody has pointed out the issues in it to them. They see it as a way to stop street racing. I don't think it will make things much different than they are, but it is a ridiculous piece of work, and doesn't make things specific enough in regards of rapid acceleration, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Let me correct myslef, very few have pointed out the issues.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted December 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 i know of one guy killed by a branch just sayingIt doesn't count when you're swinging the branch and it didn't just fall from a tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 actually .. though we all know you were making a joke... this guy was actually killed by a tree branch that just fell lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted December 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 actually .. though we all know you were making a joke... this guy was actually killed by a tree branch that just fell lol...Someone from here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverEnough Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 So I was a little slow on this all.........damn and shit. So I am the only vehicle on the road.... I brake to hard, or corner too hard, and that is grounds for street racing and so they can then seize my vehicle.......oh hell no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I was talking to a LEO yesterday and his thoughts are that it's not any different on their part, that he hadn't even heard about it. He was of the opinion that if you're not being an ass to begin with, there's nothing to worry about. I mentioned the judging of excessive acceleration, and he says that as long as you're not getting all up on someone's ass, there shouldn't be a problem. Basically, from what he was saying, if a LEO wants to be dick, they can now. There are MANY laws on the books that are not enforced as it is. Such as backing out of your driveway, if there's a sidewalk, you're supposed to stop at the sidewalk, then again at the street. How many do that? Also, when backing out of your driveway, you're supposed to signal. How many LEO's even pay attention to that to bother enforcing it?I didn't discuss the vehicle seizure part with him though, as I think that's more of an issue for the courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverEnough Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 thats my whole issue with that thing... is the seizure of my vehicle. I'll be damned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverEnough Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) hey is there a link anywhere that shows that it has been passed? It would be much appreciated!edit- nevermind I found it... Edited December 10, 2009 by NeverEnough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Someone from here?no it wasnt some one from the forum but it was in ohio someplace there was a story about it.. he was in his 40's i would like to say he was in his backyard when it happened.. i cant remember all the details.. i'll try n find it tonight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 no it wasnt some one from the forum but it was in ohio someplace there was a story about it.. he was in his 40's i would like to say he was in his backyard when it happened.. i cant remember all the details.. i'll try n find it tonight...That happened to a guy in Baltimore a year or two ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmagicglock Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 here's a petition a buddy sent me against the Monica Durban law. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/automotive-enthusiasts-against-monica-durban-law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Sorry off topic. You remember Brian Shaffer? OSU med student that dissapeared from a cbus bar. His Dad was killed by a falling branch in the wind storm. Back on Topic. Wifeys friend at LSC said this isn't going anywhere fast. I'll get more deets later but we gotta keep hounding these people to get their attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harb67 Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 Sorry off topic. You remember Brian Shaffer? OSU med student that dissapeared from a cbus bar. His Dad was killed by a falling branch in the wind storm. Wow, that's incredibly tragic. I dunno if they still do it anymore, but for my entire Freshmen and Sophomore year the movie theater at the Gateway had a little 'ad' about him that'd cycle through in their pre-preview slideshow, and they ran a commercial about him (I think his dad was in the commercial) on several channels for years. That's awful for that family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted December 12, 2009 Report Share Posted December 12, 2009 His dad was really the whole "Find Brian" campaign. It kind of dued with him. Yeah pretty sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilTwin Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 As long as C-bus doesn't turn into Phoenix and put cameras at every intersection and speed cams every 2 miles on all the highways, I think I'll be alright. Though that bill is still total BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagr Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 You put a plate flipper on yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longbrake_00 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 This maybe a repost, but I just pulled this off the R6 forum and thought this a better place for it. Since it will effect us all. I am in no way for street racing, but I can see this law being stretched over time and people's bikes being impounded for about anything.New law.http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/b...?ID=128_HB_191Petition against this.http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/aut...ica-durban-law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
that dude Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 repost. i think casper put this up somewhere. mods lock it up. we dont need 2 threads on the same topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 how about i do one better and merge them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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