natedogg624 Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 brian, are you going to be at grattan for the pro school too or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 i am talking abouth Brian Evens,he is novice rider?he race with you last season at mid ohio,and he was last week as instructor at mid ohio on the KTM ,he have white dainese suit.get your facts strait. he set up my bike and all my friends and we are all happy.he know what is doing and for sure he is 100% better than the suspension guy Jason you guys have when STT run mid ohio,he charge $ 50 for 10 minutes working on the bike,and do shit.He didn't race with me last year. He raced as a Novice... Facts are as straight as an arrow, Rusty...He just started racing and I don't think I would go to a guy unless he is VERY knowledgable about suspension. Carr, Reuben, T-Man, etc. are guys I would get proper info/work at that price.While I agree about what you are saying about Jason's prices and such, he still knew about suspension. Didn't agree with his prices and methods at times, but was knowledged.I understand you were happy, but the price and the background isn't there. Again, he started racing last year. Please do not say he was racing with experts and running at the pace they were... We all start somewhere, but to be doing what he is doing based on the limited experience he has? $75 is way over the top.Again, Bennett, Agnes and others are WAY more qualified to be doing setup techniques... Put it this way, would you take your Ducati to a dealership with a kid fresh out of school or a guy who spent the last 10 years with Ducati Corse working on the race team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 brian, are you going to be at grattan for the pro school too or not?Not. Coming back from Cali that morning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Turn One was $60. Not cheap, but I thought it was well worth it 1) because they did it fast (took them 40 minutes - would have taken me well over an hour, and I'd still be second-guessing myself) and 2) because they'll stand behind their work and tweak stuff with you all day.Marshall also watched the another guy 'jump' on my suspension to see the compression and rebound in action, and they made adjustments accordingly.You can get a friend or two to help you do it, but there were 3 guys from Turn One working on my bike at once, some of the time with me sitting on it in a race tuck to simulate riding. I don't have that many friends who know enough about bikes to trust their judgment!Good suggestion. Again, a shop that is dedicated to this type of thing is important. Measuring sag as noted by Flounder is an example of even though people have track time under their belts, doesn;t mean they know what they are doing. Professionals are the ones to go to.Sag measurement is different and the understanding of suspension will vary amongst people. Adding trail, looking for things that can better what you are doing, etc are all things that basic knowledge will not cover.Call a guy that knows like Red did here.Now, the 2-3 guys is what I suggest. One measures and one holds. Again, 35-38mm sag is what we tend to suggest these days. The older school idea was about 30mm. More now. There is also more trail needed on the newer generation machines. I have zero clue on bikes like Ducs, etc. Hell, I am still learning the RC8... BUT, many guys are using too little sag... Some don't know how to even measure it. Some guys do it differently, but get the same numbers... Again, someone that does it for a living is a great place to start.Here in CBus? Call someone. There isn't a suspension specialist around here... Call Reuben. He may not have the numbers for your bike, but he can give you basics. Thermosman (T-Man) can probably find notes on that bike as he's been doing this for that long.There's options. In this biz, opinions are like assholes... You know what I mean? Your battle is to sift through it all and find the right answers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- JJJ - Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Sounds like a lot of fun.. Good write up, and now I know what to expect when/if I get to the track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedogg624 Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Not. Coming back from Cali that morning...appreciate that lil rub in about cali brian... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Hob, thanks for the info and write up.I'm in the process of trying to unload my car so I can get a 2nd bike more suited for the street and turn my RR into a track bike because I am determined to learn how to ride better. I hate being the new guy not knowing wtf he is doing but this gives me some reassurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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