tachman Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 (edited) I'm down for Friday but will only be the Kawi if I get everything up to snuff and the title comes finallyI heard the same from another friend who had both, he said exactly the same thing so I'm pleased to hear another opinion on this. I was pretty much set on riding the Honda anyway since I am way more familiar with it and my comfort level and limits on itFrom the way this ride sounds, don't think we'll be hitting speeds or riding that aggressive to need a damperheck, my 6 doesnt have one! lol Edited June 16, 2010 by tachman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I had an '03 636 Punk and I just rode through the wobblers. I want one on my 14 as well and I've experienced some good wobblers with it as well. I normally crack it open when I feel them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tachman Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I had an '03 636 Punk and I just rode through the wobblers. I want one on my 14 as well and I've experienced some good wobblers with it as well. I normally crack it open when I feel them. lol, same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 From the way this ride sounds, don't think we'll be hitting speeds or riding that aggressive to need a damperheck, my 6 doesnt have one! lolNot all bikes need them, I couldn't ride the Kawi without one and I raced my Honda without one. Speeds they were ridden at had nothing to do with the need for one.I had an '03 636 Punk and I just rode through the wobblers. I want one on my 14 as well and I've experienced some good wobblers with it as well. I normally crack it open when I feel them. I couldn't get comfortable riding through the shakes, great handling bike but if you didn't have weight on the front end it wanted to twitch.I'm really surprised the big bikes geometry isn't stable enough to keep that front end straight. My XX and Busa were rock stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Drop the rear preload a click. It'll slow the steering and calm down your shaky head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Punk Posted June 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Drop the rear preload a click. It'll slow the steering and calm down your shaky head. The shock sucked on the 03-04 not enough adjustment for my weight and riding style to fix it with the stock unit. The front end was very good for all stock internals. Nick might have an under sprung shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I'll do some preload adjustment. Also, I would like a damper though anyway. Would be really great to get Ohlin shock and forks though. I can't afford that right now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacademus Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 My bike is adjusted rather well for me. The only time I got any headshake was when accelerating out of a nice corner and then hitting a downhill and cresting. I don't quite know what that combination did, but i started to get some serious wobble. I cracked it open, lightened the front end, and regained my bearing without skipping a beat. A month later I bought an Ohlins damper (turns out, my stock damper had failed). I look forward to testing it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Not all bikes need them, I couldn't ride the Kawi without one and I raced my Honda without one. Speeds they were ridden at had nothing to do with the need for one.I couldn't get comfortable riding through the shakes, great handling bike but if you didn't have weight on the front end it wanted to twitch.I'm really surprised the big bikes geometry isn't stable enough to keep that front end straight. My XX and Busa were rock stable.I think I could've explained it more. The bike is stable, I'm talking about coming out of a corner with the front wheel coming up and skimming the ground. At times it'll cause some shake that I'd like to see how a damper would do with that. I'm solid when fully leaned through a turn. Feels really good there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 The only time I got any headshake was when accelerating out of a nice corner and then hitting a downhill and cresting. Like that, but I don't need the downhill. Same thing with mine and why I want to buy a damper soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 ^ There's a guy who doesn't just mess around with the tip!We now have two people on the list, both of the Northeast black guys.So is this going to be a stunt show or will you guys be riding your stretched busa's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InyaAzz Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 stretched and chromed beaatch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nacademus Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 (edited) Like that, but I don't need the downhill. Same thing with mine and why I want to buy a damper soon. Whoops.I meant to say when exiting hard out of a corner, going downhill, and cresting. All of these conditions will upset your chassis a bit and greatly lighten the load on the forks and cause the wheel to caress the ground. Scary when it happens. Sometimes, your bike just doesn't have anything left to wheelie, lift, and recover once it starts. The only word of advice in that situation would be to sustain engine RPMs, try a very very slight weave to use the road as a damper. Slamming the brake could make it swerve, letting off the throttle as well. The softer more streetable forks are a little more prone to this because they have a more gradual gradient to which they dampen and rebound. A tank slapper on a true track bike is in God's hands, and a crafty rider-oh... and a sweet damper.Here's someone else's take on it... how you deal with it depends on you. I try not to ponder what the bike wants/needs as I ride it by doing complex calculations and recalling what I've read somewhere. I feel for it. That's all you need to do.http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/riding-techniques/141145-head-shake-why-does-happen.htmlhttp://www.msgroup.org/tip.aspx?num=190 Edited June 17, 2010 by nacademus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 just let this thread die already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OsuMj Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 oh adam... you know you're excited to have us all out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 you yes, everyone else no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSVDon Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 you yes, everyone else no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 don you can give me a slow jack an a ball rub, an you can join us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSVDon Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 don you can give me a slow jack an a ball rub, an you can join usI'll compromise with a ball rub. You're gonna have to work for the slow jack. And no trojan helmets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 can i tickle your belly button??? from the inside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSVDon Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 can i tickle your belly button??? from the inside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 (edited) I'm gonna wrap MJ's legs around my head an wear her like the crown she is. Edited June 18, 2010 by 4DAIVI PAI2K5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 oh adam... you know you're excited to have us all out there.Who's this Adam that you speak of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Adam is an asshole - love daivi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaNick Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I'm gonna wrap MJ's legs around my head an wear her life the crown she is.You're going to KILL her?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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