Beegreenstrings Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 My Brother-in-law and I have been talking with a few different ranges. I still need to have a sit down with Briar rabbit. Ft. Harmour seems to be excited about it. That is about as far as we have ventured, so far.He has been in contact with some of his contacts and we have working on coming up with the, to do list? Sounds good.I wanted to go a step or two farther.If you would be interested in taking such a class... What would you want to walk away with, knowledge wise. (we are finding the ranges will restrict us on things we do)... Need to have a specific ledger of what we intend on teaching and have sketches of the firing orders and direction.I want to know if you attend a class such as this. What do you want to learn.We have a hefty list layed out now. We tried to stay away from the stuff you can do and learn on your own. We are looking into true urban warfare type things. shooting positions (that normally you cant create at a typical range by yourself). Weak hand strong hand transitions, where why and why not. shooting from cover. team positions and moves where why and when. We will have to set it up on a weekend and run the course(s) for the officials to make it all good. Ft. Harmour has 1000 + acres to play with so we should be good there. Massive back drops/stops so there is no real worries there. Briar you need to remember has already had a round that made it to town and has insurance issues that we have to abide by.We are leaning toward Briar, A) because I know the owner personally and B) it is a little more central...We have been pondering the number one issue so far. Frangible or non-frangible ammo. Those that know about these ammos, know that this is a MAJOR insurance issue! we figure if we construct stands, and use paper that it will cut down on the issue with the ammo. Plus I think that it would take too many people ouf of the equation if we forced the frangible to shoot steel. Where as, if you shoot standard ammo at paper no one really cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obesityrules Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 so are you trying to host a class or conduct your own class?the idea behind most carbine classes is that you are receiving training from some of he best, as in prior special forces and blackwater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Ill down to use my drop in 22. kit im to poor to use my 5.56. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RymerC Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 No go on frangible ammo. You can make target stands for $10 or $15 and just replace the paper/cardboard FYI. What round counts are you projecting?Are you guys just trying to put together some type of stage/match, or are you actually organizing a class? (I'd be interested in a Vickers, Magpul, EAG, etc. class) What are you working on that is beyond "things you can do on your own?" Shoothouse? Team drills? Breaching? Delta-ninja helicopter insertion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I would be interested. I'm.just looking for some high speed teaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Delta-ninja helicopters...No such things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beegreenstrings Posted September 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Here is the skinny. A couple weeks ago we were at Briar. Had the entire rifle range to ourselves. Grabbed some targets and some post. Set some scoreable lamb style targets. and started running 2-2-2 drills and then running our version of the El Press.Couple of people were watching we did not realize and they came down and were asking questions. Come to find out one was a ATF agent and the other was a local sherrif. They wondered who we were and if we mind if they joined us. Long story short by the time we were done there was a crowd watching the four of us. Then we went through some urban warfare type shooting.When all was said and done we were approached to conduct a course. So, now it is just trying to get everything in a row and making it work in a course like form.The main instructor is a almost 30yr vetran in the armed forces and for the past 20 years has been in the US spec Ops. He has trained approx 278 other spec ops personnel under his command. He has been to just about every class that you can think of multiple times. Magpul (which by the way fellas he was not impressed with), but for the sake of arguement he took Viking Tactics/Kyle Lamb class first.He did not take "Vikers" actual class but took the class from someone else.Yes he has fired and taught on a Aerial platform. No we will not be doing such a thing. His last message states he does not think he take a huey out of service long enough to run that many shooters through it. J/K on that last part to any tard that would actually think I am serious there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Count me in if I can use my BB rounds instead of my 5.56. Oh and whats the price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flounder Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Ill come and "teach" the precision rifle class. Yes, that was a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Flyer Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Briar Rabbit is supposedly building an environment/range for this purpose already as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Can I ask who the "main instructor" is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Can I ask who the "main instructor" is?Chuck Norris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I believe A&A has a range designated for this type of exercise. if not, the "sport range" all the way in the back can be rented out for pretty damn cheap.If you have an LEO back there, I think they pretty much leave you alone...We had at least 3 at the shoot I was at. Range patrol came back, and I got nervous ...for about 5 seconds. They were just coming to say hi. I didn't even sign a waiver or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Chuck NorrisDoesn't need a gun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Rambo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolWhip Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Bob Villa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiztedRabbit Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 i want in.. i'l bring the 22 tactical! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 i want in.. i'l bring the 22 tactical!Yes I wont be the only one haha. Ill have my drop in conversion and my sig522 haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Damn you guys and your 2.5 hour drive to go have fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 After thinking about it I would rather start with a basic class. I believe more people here would benefit more from a ground level training instead of jumping into a high speed tactical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixgun Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Can't Vette Rambo either...but you enjoy yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 come show us the path too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beegreenstrings Posted September 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 He is a current Mst Sgt in Us Spec Ops. For Obvious Reasons I do not post his actual name on the net... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 What date you looking at? cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 When, where, and how much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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