Ohio Oil Well Drilling

[Bad324]

As some of you may or may not know, I work in the Oil and Gas industry and with the rise of well drilling in Ohio I'm curious to see what OR's thoughts on it is. Whether it be positive, negative or just don't care let me know. There is a good bit of information I have access to, tiny bit of knowledge and a whole bunch of mis-truths about the industry I could probably shed some light on

Edited November 30, 2011 by Bad324

[Tpoppa]

It creates jobs, maybe a lot of jobs.

[crb]

Good for the state and citizens, yet I don't care either way.

[madcat6183]

Good for the state and citizens, yet I don't care either way.

Ditto, still took option 1 though, because OH needs jobs, point blank.

[warpspeed]

a refinery would make more sense

[flounder]

My buddies family just got a boatload of money for selling off the rights for drilling on their land. A BOATLOAD OF MONEY!!!

[Beegreenstrings]

I am staying neutral on it. I got in big trouble on another site for jumping on someone about it... Fiance works for the EPA, so I have heard their side of this as well (her findings along with a few others are why the drilling has been haulted in Perry county). I also set through two of the meetings down here about my properties and that which is around it.

I voted no, with what the EPA submitted at the meeting. When they showed up at my house and was talking money. I told them to buy my house then I would be out of their equation.

Wanting to sell my house in the spring, does not warrant a yes vote from me for wanting to put a G.D. rig up across the street from my house and have a ruined well and 2 million gallons of crap water laying in the ground. Buy my house that way you have your own storage barn. Maintance garage and job trailer with heat AC electric phone and two bedrooms and two offices and a kitchen. Sounds good to me if I was one of these companies. I told him to buy it before winter and I would only want 99K and be gone in 48 hours from purchase. spring I want 115K

The guy chuckled...

I told him to leave and recognize the signs and what they say at the end of the drive-way and not to come back.

That was when I escorted him off the property.

his little survey Faulks showed up last week! Good thing I was home. When told to leave the property the kid said I did not have the right. he and his buddies left pretty quick and have not been back!

I hate people with a mighty passion when they think they can Faulk with you because they work for a big company.

Edited November 30, 2011 by Beegreenstrings

[THE GRUNDISH]

ALL FOR IT!!! Jobs and money for people!

[Bad324]

It creates jobs, maybe a lot of jobs.

it would definitely be a lot. One of the major players in drilling is our biggest customer (we put the pipe in the ground to transport the gas/oil) will create about 30,000 jobs themselves. Between hiring of their own and working with contractors such as ourselves who have added 50 jobs strictly to do work for them and this is only the beginning stages

a refinery would make more sense

Can you expand on this thought and why you think that? I assume you are thinking of the type of drilling thats done down in the gulf where they produce more oil than they can refine. This is a bit different type of drilling where it goes through processing plants, which there are currently none in Ohio but at least one is in the works and I would assume a couple more shortly after

The great thing is the way the processing facilities work is they are designed to be expanded over time as the demand grows

My buddies family just got a boatload of money for selling off the rights for drilling on their land. A BOATLOAD OF MONEY!!!

There really is a shit ton of money to be made by landowners by allowing the leasing of land. Some of the land agents aren't honest and will try to take advantage of the unknowing land owner because even though to the every day Joe the first offer is a shit ton of money, usually they will not truly offer what the land is worth. Its always a good idea to do your homework to make sure you are getting the right deal. In the past most leases have been a public knowledge so you can see, not sure if that has changed with recent legislation though

[Beegreenstrings]

it would definitely be a lot. One of the major players in drilling is our biggest customer (we put the pipe in the ground to transport the gas/oil) will create about 30,000 jobs themselves. Between hiring of their own and working with contractors such as ourselves who have added 50 jobs strictly to do work for them and this is only the beginning stages

Please dont take what I said the wrong way...

But on this subject are these permanent jobs or are they like the pipeline that just came through last year. hired a few hundred people for a few months, laid them back off?

[Bad324]

Please dont take what I said the wrong way...

But on this subject are these permanent jobs or are they like the pipeline that just came through last year. hired a few hundred people for a few months, laid them back off?

It's a combo of both but on that note in our sector its at least 20-25 years worth of work for construction of the pipeline system. We tend to carry about 125 field guys from april to november and 75 in the winter months. We actually are one of the few contractors that work through the winter. If we continue getting the work they say we will and all things pan out, we'd pretty much double our company in size. We even told one of our old customers who was a pain in the ass to work with to go blow because we could afford to and also needed the guys to move over to this kind of work.

IF laws and regulations stay the way they are or relax then drilling will last at least 15 years if not longer. That's a big IF because if people don't fully grasp the way fracking (which is what you alluded to) works and regulations get worse then they could easily pull out because its too difficult or expensive to continue in Ohio.

This is THE reason why I voted for Kasich. He gets it in regards to our industry and what it can do for Ohio. There are farmers in SW PA that barely scraped by until these land leases started happening, now they are multi millionaires!

And no I don't take it wrong at all, I value everyones opinion and although I may not be able to change it as a whole sometimes a little extra education and understanding benefits everyone

Edited November 30, 2011 by Bad324

[Jst2fst]

I am staying neutral on it. I got in big trouble on another site for jumping on someone about it... Fiance works for the EPA, so I have heard their side of this as well (her findings along with a few others are why the drilling has been haulted in Perry county). I also set through two of the meetings down here about my properties and that which is around it.

I voted no, with what the EPA submitted at the meeting. When they showed up at my house and was talking money. I told them to buy my house then I would be out of their equation.

Wanting to sell my house in the spring, does not warrant a yes vote from me for wanting to put a G.D. rig up across the street from my house and have a ruined well and 2 million gallons of crap water laying in the ground. Buy my house that way you have your own storage barn. Maintance garage and job trailer with heat AC electric phone and two bedrooms and two offices and a kitchen. Sounds good to me if I was one of these companies. I told him to buy it before winter and I would only want 99K and be gone in 48 hours from purchase. spring I want 115K

The guy chuckled...

I told him to leave and recognize the signs and what they say at the end of the drive-way and not to come back.

That was when I escorted him off the property.

his little survey Faulks showed up last week! Good thing I was home. When told to leave the property the kid said I did not have the right. he and his buddies left pretty quick and have not been back!

I hate people with a mighty passion when they think they can Faulk with you because they work for a big company.

So.... What dies the sign oin your drive way say??

[gen3flygirl]

Makes more sense then putting a casino in down town columbus

[blue03636]

BGS thinks he has the rights to the minerals under his land. He's mistaken' date=' and would lose if he took the oil company to court.[/quote']

This depends on how his deed reads. There are owners to the minerals but it depends on if it has been split off to another owner or not.

[speedytriple]

My buddies family just got a boatload of money for selling off the rights for drilling on their land. A BOATLOAD OF MONEY!!!

They can use the boat load of money to treat the cancer and other health issues from that oil well. ever smell the area around a well? The fumes alone will make you want to puke.

Edited November 30, 2011 by speedytriple

[Bad324]

They can use the boat load of money to treat the cancer and other health issues from that oil well. ever smell the area around a well? The fumes alone will make you want to puke.

Got any data on that? I'd like to see if there really are any correlations. Also, if this is the case then the insurance for that sort of hazardous condition for workers would be astronomical.

Yes I've been to many oil well sites in construction, in production and capped off yet I've never smelled anything other than a typical construction site of any kind

[shadyone]

My GF's Cousin has a few wells on his land just south of Junction city, brings in about 10 barrels a year or so. Ive never noticed a smell around them. but apparently Perry County is which speckled with oil wells.

[ohiomike]

A huge conundrum with a question like this. Our country needs to stop being so dependent on foreign oil. We also need jobs. But we CANNOT destroy any of our water surplus's. Zero. It is already becoming a problem elsewhere in our country. Without oil we can survive. Without water we cannot. So answering a question like this is not easy and cannot be given its due justice on a forum like this imho.

[buildit]

As a person who doesn't trust big companies, government or anyone who sells a commodity that by all right is in public trust at an amount that receives subsidies from our taxes, I have to admit I have my misgivings.

Maybe if the oil company had to prove financial viability monthly as to ensure the proper funds to preform a full clean up of contaminated water, remediation of a spill, and take care of all the people within 200 miles who now have a mysterious disease caused by the new wells.

[obesityrules]

the economy is so bad they want to turn the grand canyon into a uranium mine...

[Howabusa]

I live on the Marion/ Morrow county line. Morrow county is full of wells, lived in the middle of a few wells for 4 years, there was a definite odor from the wells.

[blue03636]

From talking to one of the geologists at work on this, the majority of the oil and gas are located below most of the used water tables. This would mean no contamination to drinking water. It's also funny that everyone wants to quit being dependant on foreign oil, use electric/natural gas cars but they never want people to acquire the resources to do this. We can't have both and the companies have to jump through hoops with the department of natural resources, epa, army core and others to protect the environment and the public. I would have to see if the gas companies are like most mineral companies and have to post some sort of bonding against ruining someone's water. I'm also sure they would have to do at a minimum annual water monitoring from people in the area of the well. This is stuff I would have to look into and maybe bad might know the answer.

[ReconRat]

There is a lot of unused existing oil wells in Ohio. Capped off and sitting idle. The production rate didn't justify the use and collection. That has changed for some, and they are being restarted. Nothing wrong with little oil wells that I can see, they are all over Los Angeles. You see them behind trees and shrubs in mall parking lots.

Some deeds come with mineral rights, but I bet that most do not. Still might have to get or buy permission from the land owner anyway. Tricky question. Chances are that if they want it, they will get it anyway.

[buildit]

I don't have a problem with drilling. I have a serious problem with fracking.

Yeah, which is this? Just a well or a fracking opperation?

[Bad324]

I don't have a problem with drilling. I have a serious problem with fracking.

Fracking wells in Ohio has been going on with almost all wells for the last 100 years and nobody "complained" til a few years ago

I need to find the articles about the real truths behind fracking

Edited December 1, 2011 by Bad324