rslocum Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I'm signed up for "I" to run with my buddies in the morning but might ask Todd if I can run "A" in the afternoon. Going to be a great weekend. Bringing the grill and a cooler full of beer for Saturday night. Party at "Trailer de Robo bitches"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHill Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Curious now !The bump down was by my choice....and by the fact that there was no way I was going to try running with intermediate after what happened. (yeah, building suspense) Might as well been in intermediate though, novice was running damn near the same pace all day. Only difference was in intermediate everyone was more evenly matched and in novice you were only "supposed" to pass on the straights.Video will be up in a minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHill Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) Guess this should really be in it's own thread, but consider it a "what not to do at PIRC" during the MotoSeries event http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFHCUF3jxw&The description of the video:"Day started rough for me; new tires, cold track....take a guess. I think I even mentioned it earlier, was going to take it extremely easy the first few laps....didnt even make it off the ramp.Next incident was a highside about 3/4 of the way through the carousel. Rear tire broke loose ending in a highside. It was good to see him up and in good spirits after.Finally is a pretty nasty wreck at turn one. Didn't realize the camera caught this one. Pretty much what is in the video is what I know happened; I was more focused on the riders braking in front of me. All in all, it was a fun day. Wish the last sessions wouldn't have been cut short, but there was a serious(not that these were not) accident and there were no more buses." Edited September 17, 2012 by RHill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I just signed up for I group. Still on the fence about doing race school. It would be cool if I could find someone else to take it with me....**cough....Steve....cough....Rob......**At the very least I'll do like Rob and give A a run in the afternoon. I've finally found my rabbit in Rob. Thanks man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC1000rr Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Send me a PM with what your thinking. I hadn't watched this thread and didn't know you needed a ride. I'm going out Friday evening, but can take us up late that night or morning of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ama146 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 So Quentin won't be there this weekend so I am thinking I'll just call him tomorrow and have them shipped to me, then get them mounted at the track. Will Todd mount my Bridgestones for me? If so, any ideas on how much they will be per tire?Oh does Quentin take the contingency certs over the phone or anything like that? I'd really like to use them for this tire buy if I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMN8TR Posted September 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Dang, glad you mentioned that he wouldn't be there. I just assumed he would as always. I put on a new front last round on Saturday, and a new rear that only has the mini 20 on it. If I go easy on Saturday I might be able to make the weekend on the tires I have on there now. If not looks like I'm trying out those Pirellis sooner than I thought I might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thDr Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Guess this should really be in it's own thread, but consider it a "what not to do at PIRC" during the MotoSeries event The description of the video:"Day started rough for me; new tires, cold track....take a guess. I think I even mentioned it earlier, was going to take it extremely easy the first few laps....didnt even make it off the ramp.Next incident was a highside about 3/4 of the way through the carousel. Rear tire broke loose ending in a highside. It was good to see him up and in good spirits after.Finally is a pretty nasty wreck at turn one. Didn't realize the camera caught this one. Pretty much what is in the video is what I know happened; I was more focused on the riders braking in front of me. All in all, it was a fun day. Wish the last sessions wouldn't have been cut short, but there was a serious(not that these were not) accident and there were no more buses." I was there yesterday. Had way too mayn wrecks, including a few requiring hospital visits. It was a good day for me, but not for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photos by Marty Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) Don't forget to pre-order your CD and save some cash. I take cash, check or paypal (marty at photosbymartyllc.com)I'll have order forms at the track as my DriveHQ account was closed since I haven't used it in a long time. Edited September 17, 2012 by Photos by Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Copeland Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Guess this should really be in it's own thread, but consider it a "what not to do at PIRC" during the MotoSeries event The description of the video:"Day started rough for me; new tires, cold track....take a guess. I think I even mentioned it earlier, was going to take it extremely easy the first few laps....didnt even make it off the ramp.Next incident was a highside about 3/4 of the way through the carousel. Rear tire broke loose ending in a highside. It was good to see him up and in good spirits after.Finally is a pretty nasty wreck at turn one. Didn't realize the camera caught this one. Pretty much what is in the video is what I know happened; I was more focused on the riders braking in front of me. All in all, it was a fun day. Wish the last sessions wouldn't have been cut short, but there was a serious(not that these were not) accident and there were no more buses."What happened coming out onto the track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJC1000rr Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) I'm going with cold tire & cold track, rear spins instead of getting traction and down ya go. When tires and tracks are cold, you might as well have a solid block for a rear tire. Edited September 17, 2012 by SJC1000rr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHill Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 New tires, literally felt like ice. After finding a brake lever, tooled around the parking lot and even then i could feel the rear end slipping all over the place. Gas/braked a bunch of times before creeping around the track for two laps before they started to get traction. There were too many wrecks yesterday, and way too many close calls. Novice was crazy, passes happening everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I'm not sure I want to know how you were feeling the rear slipping in the pits. This is either from you trying to spin it in the pits (which I really hope isn't the case) or you have too much tire pressure (which still shouldn't slip in the pits as the speed limit is 15mph). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHill Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I was just putting around the building up top and by the open lot where they were doing autocross. No more than 15mph, hell I was completely upright when going around the building; thats where I could feel the rear slipping all over the place. Wasn't doing anything other than rolling the tires on the groud to get them a little above ambient temp.Tire pressure started at 30-30 before the dump. Later in the day after a long break it was up to 35-37, so I let out air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat6183 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Are you running shinkos or something similar? I mean "slipping all over the place" isn't good no matter what.Glad you are okay, but maybe a good time to take a step back and evaluate before you or someone else get's really hurt. Sounds like you did by bumping back down, but making sure you understand what the bike and tires are doing is key in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHill Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 They were q2's; after they heated up they were fine. It was the cold, the release agnet on the tires and my dumbass not working the tires before trying to go on the track. Thought I could get away with taking it extremely easy, now I know better and have some reminder scratches on the bike and leathers.Gone through 2 sets of shinkos on my old bike; only issue with traction was the sucked in the wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 One thing to think about for all the newer track riders is that when it's cold out your tire pressure needs adjusted accordingly. 30/30 works good on a warm too hot day but not cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykill Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 So what works on a cold day? Lower pressures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 I'm going to guess, yes. Lower pressures on colder days will cause the tire to get heat into it faster. Think of cold and hot tears on tires. Cold tears are due to too much air and the tire not able to build heat. Hot tears are the opposite in they are due to not enough air and they build up too much heat.Craig.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 You got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 i think they're just making shit up, don't listen to them. just go out the first lap of first session on a 50 degree morning, pass all the race school students around the outside of the carousel at nelson, and scream "KIIIIIIIING OF INTERMEDIIIIIIAAAAATE!!!1!!1!11!!1!1" and promptly lose the front going into turn 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykill Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 Thats what I was thinking but figured I'd ask to make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVTPilot Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 i think they're just making shit up, don't listen to them. just go out the first lap of first session on a 50 degree morning, pass all the race school students around the outside of the carousel at nelson, and scream "KIIIIIIIING OF INTERMEDIIIIIIAAAAATE!!!1!!1!11!!1!1" and promptly lose the front going into turn 12.I tried this. All I did was end up scaring myself into poop-filled leathers and crying all the way back into the pits. But John was there with a (mouth) hug to make me feel all better.Wait. That was just the dream I had last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J_Copeland Posted September 17, 2012 Report Share Posted September 17, 2012 So how many A group riders(And racers) are we going to have in the I group?Seems to me that at NL there were a lot of guys that weren't I group out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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