well i'm looking at getting an in-line with a scope and shooting 300gr hollowpoint sabots. and yeah, i can imagine those hit harder than some shotguns. we were shooting wad and balls (i think like 175gr) at the range with 100-grains of pyrodex and that packed a good punch. the newer #209 primed guns handle up to 150-grains of powder, i wouldnt wanna get hit with one, lol.