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According to the CDC, about 7,700 people die every day in the US.  So, since the first case of COVID 19 was reported in the US (63 days), about 485,000 people have died in the US.  About 500 of those were due to COVID 19.

I realize a contagious disease can spread exponentially.  Not discounting anything, just a bit of perspective.

1 hour ago, TimTheAzn said:

Pretty much business owners are still given latitude on if they deem their business essential.

I'm sitting at work because one of our divisions makes screw drivers.... apparently they help build medical stuff... or so the president says.

If I get Corona/China/Foreign/Non-PC virus I'm going to be just fine.  But I'd feel fucking terrible if I spread it to your kid/parent/grandparents and they weren't fine.

About 33,000 confirmed cases in the US...that still 1-hundredth-of-a-percentage-point of the US population.  Those numbers will double or triple in the next 2-3 weeks.  That's as much a function of more tests being conducted as it is actual spread of the virus. 

I've talked to more than a few people in health care.  Once they see the groups of people that have it and the limited supplies the reality of the situation really seems to sink in.  

More masks, test, ventilators are being produced...Remdisivir, Chloroquine, or some new drug will make a difference...There will be some relief, eventually.  In the mean time we can't overwhelm the Health Care Industry's ability to scale.  No one in health care wants to be forced to make decisions on which critical patients can be treated and which have to be turned away due to lack of ventilators.

Any guesses on when Ohio gets the shelter in place order.  I'm guessing in the next day or 2.

I thought medicinal weed was mostly nonsense.  But it solved my GFs vertigo in minutes after the prescription meds didn't do a damn thing.

39 minutes ago, Pauly said:

Seems like a waste of BMW's time, to me. 

I was hoping the bagger version would have a little better cornering manners and be more function over form than a typical bagger.  

If that is the riding position on the production model, it will flop...like BMWs last cruiser attempt.

8 minutes ago, SpecialEd said:

Be careful about vetting sources of information. This article was, at best, skeletal, and "Weaselzippers" doesn't appear to be a credible site.

At this point I think the credibility of weaselzippersis on par with CNN.  Not a compliment for either.

I was really hoping to like this thing, but...that riding position looks pretty funky.  Knees are to the top of the fuel tank.  The cylinder looks like it's right in the way of a comfortable riding position and being able to move your foot

Hopefully that's just a preproduction issue, but IDK.

Corona isn't Trump's fault.
Ebola wasn't Obama's.
SARS wasn't Bush's
and only a handful of cases of herpes were Clinton's

9 minutes ago, 2talltim said:

Just canceled our cruise for April. Good news is since the wife probably can't get any more time off past July that might mean a week long bike trip for me in late summer. 

Now might be a good time to buy stock in cruise companies.  Carnival dropped from about $60 to around $10/share. 

13 minutes ago, snot said:

 

And do we wait for everyone to get it before we can reopen everything? Or just another week? 

I doubt they know yet.  Those decisions will be made as the situation evolves.

4 minutes ago, snot said:

I would love to test ride the 400. I know it is lighter than the 300 and has better acceleration. 

I considered the 650 since it is a step up and has great acceleration on the highway (my commute is all highway).

It will be next year before I am ready to buy another bike. So, I have time.

27 minutes ago, Pauly said:

Who the fuck watches Fox News with any amount of belief in their "reporting"? 

11 minutes ago, Tonik said:

FTFY

Agreed.  I tend to read both for sake of comparison.  Fox and CNN and both dripping with partisan bias.

Did you know that Fox has more viewers than CNN...I was not aware of that until recently.

49 minutes ago, snot said:

I was looking at the 650. The 400 is not much of a step up from the 300 but the seat height is right.

The new 250 is a 4 cylinder with a quick shifter and 59hp. I want to see more specs so I can compare them all.

I think the 400 is a better overall package than the 650.  I looked at both of them and the 900.   Still bought the 400.

 I'll let you ride it sometime...

In the Cleveland area (probably Ohio and beyond)  there was a widespread upper respiratory infection in November/December.

Everyone had it.  I had it.  It lasted about 4 weeks.  I'll bet lots of people are wondering if it was Corona.  It wasn't.

2 minutes ago, Tonik said:

Reminder, Trump was on TV day after day saying we had boatloads of kits and were testing all over the place for the first few weeks of this. It was all a lie, we had no kits. Those people at the first major outbreak in that retirement home in California sat there for a long time without tests. Cleveland didn't start testing until late last week.

He lied, for quite some time about. I was going to vote for him again, just to piss of the liberals. Can't do that now.

There's more to that story.

It's been discussed pretty openly in some of the briefings.

11 hours ago, Tonik said:

The US and South Korea found their first case of Corona on the same day.

South Korea has tested 270k people for Corona, about 5200 per million. We have done 74 tests per million. It is very much under control on South Korea without a ton of closings and sheltering.

Thanks Trump.

From what I read...

South Korea rushed their COVID 19 test development.  They took a chance and released a test that skipped some of the normal testing steps.  They took a risk and it paid off, thankfully.  If it had not worked, South Korea might be in a situation like Italy.  But it did work.

Our CDC on the other hand took a less risky approach, which took more time, and did not result in a better test than South Korea's.   The CDC's protocols exists for a reason, but in the case a a fast spreading, mutating virus...speed is critical.  I'm certain the CDC will be reevaluating their methods.

Why not do both?   Why not have a fast track plan A, with a less risky plan B running concurrently?

18 minutes ago, Pauly said:

Wipe your asses with a washcloth and clean it in the sink. Good grief. 

Clean the asses or the washcloths in the sink?

47 minutes ago, snot said:

Can't wait to hear more about the ZX25R.

I hope the bike comes to the US.

If it doesn't, you should take a look and the Ninja 400.  It's a pretty significant jump over the 300.  It's a capable sport bike and does surprisingly well as a sport tourer... ask @Pauly

or @Blitz  and it's super fun to ride.

27 minutes ago, snot said:

Why not take nsaids?

https://www.sciencealert.com/who-recommends-to-avoid-taking-ibuprofen-for-covid-19-symptoms

I think I'm good

10 minutes ago, snot said:

So I went to the store and most shelves are bare. Plenty of tuna in a can and Paleo mixes to make stuff. Lots of apples and oranges.

But, what happens if there is a mass recall on food due to salmonella? There is no food to replace it and would we know before a bunch of people are sick?

 

2 minutes ago, motocat12 said:

It's feast or famine I guess. I hear people saying this. But the store I want to yesterday was shelving TP and all milk options except skim gallon. all canned veggies stocked except peas, frozen pizza was down to a few brands, all in the morning. I think certain neighborhoods have more households per store.

I have read that at a National level there is no shortage of food.  But local shortages can occur due to people stock piling.  It will level off.   Food is still being manufactured.  Lots of companies that were making food for restaurants will have capacity to service retail...if necessary.

I've been to 3 stores in the last 2 weeks as recently as Monday.   Plenty of food was on the selves.  The only things that were out of stock were things like hand sanitizer and Lysol wipes.

21 minutes ago, Steve Butters said:

My job is one that can be done from home 100% of the time. My company is just against remote work for some unknown reason. We have plenty of executives who work remote, but mainly because we just wanted the talent and that's what it took to get them. Local people they make it much harder. I'm really not sure why. I hope this will be a positive exercise to show them it can work.

My first conference call of the day today and half the people couldn't dial in because the firmwide conference line is too bogged down from all the phone meetings.... So, not off to a good start.

 

** I also already had remote capability, and am allowed to work remote 3 days per month whenever I wish. They just don't like to make formal arrangements. It's really puzzling in 2020 when so many companies offer perks like that. We're also packed in our buildings and fighting for space... Yet they still won't let people work remote full time.

The current buzzword against remote employees is "collaboration."  It's nonsense.

In a closed door meeting, the CEO of my last company (ADP 50,000 employees) literally said to his inner circle exec douchebags that they were moving away from remote EEs because they wanted to move away from the older, higher paid (many remote) employees and hire more young, low-wage millennials...but millennials don't have the same work ethic and cant be trusted to work from home. 

Shortly after a "Voluntary" early retirement package to everyone over a certain age.  Most took it, many of those that didn't were laid off within the next 6 months.  

1 hour ago, Steve Butters said:

Finally allowed to work remote... Until further notice 👍🏻

After all this passes.  I wonder if working from home will become more common.

Some companies have had much success with remote employees, others are reluctant to give employees a remote option.  The trend has been up and down.

I've worked from home for the past 15 years and would prefer to never work in an office again.