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2 minutes ago, Pauly said:

Kentucky is one of the best motorcycling states I have been through. 

I only rode in KY that one time on the way back from the Gap.  I forget your route, but the roads were twisty, in nice shape, and the traffic was light.

3 hours ago, bowdog said:

Awesome! I have a place in Nancy Ky on Lake Cumberland...I have currently only boated down there but plan to get the bike down soon as I have seen some awesome roads over the last year down there. If you get a chance check out the area, some great lodge type camping there with good roads and awesome hospitality!

We need to talk about this.  I was speaking to a real estate agent about water front lots in Nancy and Monticello.  I'd like to hear some opinions of the area.

1 minute ago, Tonik said:

When you ain't selling much, there is no where to go but up. Honda sells more bikes in a month than the three of them put together sell in a year.

 

So does HD and they are circling the drain.

Adventure bikes are by far the most virile segment right now.  Give HD credit for making an effort with the PA, but they are late to the game and their is already strong, well-established competition.  Harley could really use a win here.  Which is most likely scenario:

A)  Sales flop.  HD is too far out of their comfort zone.  It will be too heavy, will lack features and capability & will be at the bottom of every comparison.

B)  Mediocre sales.  It will never make it to showrooms in meaningful numbers.  HD dealers won't know how to talk to adventure buyers (ala Buell).  Will be a niche bike among the HD faithful. 

C) Sales success.  HD will knock this out of the park and and surprise the GS, KTM, Tiger, AT, VStrom, & Tenere.  It will be a viable contender and attract riders from other manufacturers. 

1 minute ago, Tonik said:

Whose motorcycle sales are growing really well in a crap market?

BMW, Triumph, & KTM

26 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

Idk about innovative but they put out a real nice 1000 a year or two ago and people are eating them up.

Look at the model line ups of the big 4 Japanese manufacturers.

Kawasaki and Yamaha have by far the most desirable models in the categories where most bikes sell.  FZ09, FZ07, Tracer, Ninja 650, Z900, Ninja 1000 all sell.

Beginner sportbikes...Suzuki built the terrible selling GSX250R , which is good competition for the 1988 Ninja 250.

Honda has the CBR500R (CBR300R is not even worth mentioning).  Compare the CBR500R to the Ninja 400...The Ninja is lighter, faster, better handling, better suspended, more engaging to ride, fun on a track, and way less expensive.   The Honda is....."crickets"      

2 minutes ago, zx3vfr said:

That either they or their dealers never budge on price. 
 

it’s sad really. 

I 100% get that the American motorcycle market is shit compared to the rest of the world but just stop already.  Sell the Gold Wing, Africa Twin, CRF line, grom  and a couple SxS’s 

no CBRs, no cruisers don’t even bother with middle weight naked sport bikes. So many better options.  

New, 2014 CTX700s and CTX1300s were still in showrooms last year.  The NC700x, NT700V, VFR1200, CB1100, CB1000R were all overpriced swings and misses.  CBRs always rank near the bottom in HP.  All those bikes are fine to ride, but compared to compared to the competition, they are more expensive and lack features that buyers want. 

The new GW is their best, most innovative offering in years, but 2018s are still sitting in showrooms.

1 hour ago, zx3vfr said:

Well Honda hasn’t been exactly known as innovative since probably the early 90s. 

Honda is the king of 5 year old motorcycles aging on the show room floor.  

16 minutes ago, Tonik said:

And Harley is being removed from S&Ps 500.

https://biztimes.com/harley-davidson-removed-from-sp-500/?amp

Yay!  A lot of my 401k is in S&P index funds.  

Manufacturers that build innovative, engaging motorcycles are still doing well in the US.

I think that list is limited to BMW, Triumph, KTM, Ducati, Yamaha, and Kawasaki.

2 hours ago, Howabusa said:

I thought Buffett loaned them $300 million.

He did, but that was years ago.

Harley's lack of innovation has not typically been an issue for them.  People bought them as modern antiques.

...but, all the bikes they made in their late 2000s hayday are flooding the used market, and prices are dropping.  Those used bikes are 95% the same as new Harleys and way cheaper..and they're old-school/air-cooled.

6 hours ago, Tonik said:

Ok, so the dude that got shot in Atlanta.....that was a good shoot.

People need to apply some common sense to what they are protesting, otherwise they loose credibility.

Agree and agree.

16 minutes ago, durk said:

I replaced tires yesterday. Threw on some Roadsmart 2s. Went to leave the drive for shakedown run and rear end slid out from under me. Broke clutch lever and foot peg, and busted up my left side fairings.  So far not liking Roadsmart 2. 

4 minutes ago, motocat12 said:

mold release

Yes, unfortunately.  Roadsmart 3s (just mounted a set, never tried 2s) use something different so new tires don't need as many scrub in miles.

165 hp & 163 ft lbs.  This has been added to my garage bucket list.

I need to own one of these when used ones can be had under 10k.

Seattle is a national embarrassment.

2 hours ago, Pauly said:

 

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45 minutes ago, Pauly said:

 556 might be more fun. 

556 used to be one of my favorites (5 years ago).

Anymore, that road has been ruined by fracking traffic.  The last 3 or 4 times I woundup riding at 35mph behind convoys.  

12 minutes ago, MidgetTodd said:

Trailering there and back is way more enjoyable 

...on a Grom.

9 hours ago, Earl H said:

Looking at getting involved in group riding. I have a property in Loudonville Ohio on the river that we use to camp, that could be available to a group of 25+.

If this sounds like something that works for the group, please reach out.

 

Also in N Ridgeville.  

I have a tall Givi Windscreen for a CB500x in the garage if you want it.

4 hours ago, NinjaDoc said:

Will be keeping this for a long time 🤣
 

If you say so.

what's your opinion of the KTM?