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What is the VFR12? It looks like an ST, but Honda calls it a sport bike. It has serious flaws with either category. Your CB1000R hits it's mark much better than the VFR. I've seen new 2010 VFR12's advertised for under 10k, and that price is going to drop even further over the winter. I'd take a chance on a used one for $6.5k-ish...I'll bet they'll be selling for that by the end of next season.

The fail is in the showroom. Plenty of deeply discounted 2010s will be sitting there for quite some time. Is the VFR12 an overweight, mediocre handling sport bike, or an uncomfortable sport tourer with short range and hard bags that are too small? For positives...it's a fast bike with Honda build quality. That may be good enough for some, but there are plenty of better bikes that cost a lot less than $16k.

The N1K is what the vfr1200 should have been. The 2014 is on my short list.

http://www.motorcycle.com/how-to/motorcycle-downshifting-techniques

You think 7k is too high for an 06 Honda? Hmmm.

That black RC is dead sexy.

If a republican contradicted them self so blatantly, you would be the first to point it out. But, you have a man crush on Obama so it's OK that he has become the 'leadership failure' that he was pointing out in the quote. I love double standards.

Pretty much my thoughts except for the Spain/Saipan joke.

So who's planning the Tennessee ultimate ride for spring?

How about any group of Harleys...ever.

I'll be riding next weekend Dave.

We have problems closer to home. Watch out for the Ohio Grassman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grassman

If you happen to be near Cleveland. ..

Too bad your not closer.

Sup Will. That thing should come with a get out of jail free card.

Somehow...I'll try to find the strength to continue during this oh so significant government shutdown. I know...I'll drink beer and shoot pool

JCP as a whole is circling the drain.

He is a master-bait-ing troll?

I am HUGELY in favor of Congressional term limits. The limit should be 2 terms for any seat, or a total of 4 terms if someone holds more than 1 office. This would remove career politicians that amass huge fortunes without accomplishing much to benefit the American people. IIRC, this was suggested by Warren Buffet. http://www.rollcall.com/50richest/the-50-richest-members-of-congress-112th.html

The Federal Gov't was never intended to be so large or so powerful. It has gown out of control. The people were supposed to have the power and the control...and today we certainly do not. They only listen during election season, and that is purely self serving.

A long time ago that was true. Now this is just a theory will very little application in real life. Name a federal politician that consistently follows the will of the people...I can't.

I just looked out my window. Everything is just fine.

I challenge jbot to an argument and a kart battle.

^^ Were you riding on 83 around 2p yesterday?

Too bad it has that fuck ugly Ducati logo