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Due to events out of my control, I will not be riding on Saturday.

Since you seem to love hypotheticals... Let's say there was a military initiative to eliminate know-it-all-trolls from OR . And YOU were identified as a military target. Would said cousin, who apparently does not posess free will or the cognitive ability to make decisions, eliminate you?

Nice try, but your arguement was US military firing at US citizens.

You do not. Citing Kent State is misguided at best. You have found a very isolated and very regrettable incident and assumed that it is SOP for our military. Kent State was a black mark in military history and US history. I served in the USMC infantry in a Company of highly trained Marines. I cannot envision a scenario where those I served with would fire on US citizens orders or not. The 'mindless following of orders' is nothing but a stereotype that is only believed by those with ZERO first hand knowledge.

Worth pointing out again. We have someone who hasn't served but thinks he is an expert on the behavior of members of our military Ahhh but he has a cousin

Have you served?

...and unfortunately very misguided. The role of the military is not to blindly follow orders. And much though goes into the orders that are given. Of course their are bad apples in every group.

I am afraid your 'grip' is highly innaccurate. The scary part is that you're convinced you are right.

Have you served?

I don't mind conversations about controversail topics. However a conversation implies some exchange of ideas, perhaps resulting in a gain of knowledge of understanding. I don't know you personally, just the image you project online. Your posts read like an activit that is highly stubborn and convinced you are right. Which is a really annoying combination. Some may agree with you, some may not. It's OK, get over it.

Politics, Religion, Guns...what's next?

He's 17 and it's almost the end of riding season. By spring he might be into something else entirely.

What about these? http://www.dan-moto.com/DM_US/3d-clip-on-50mm-silver-product-357.html They seem to be infinitely adjustable.

According to the comparo I read, the ZX14 seems like a better choice

We can trade bikes, although my 70hp might seem a bit boring in comparison.

Drop it off. They will be properly scrubbed.

I am wanting to ride this weekend, but a few things need to fall into place first.

Proof that sex sells ???

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A gun to learn to shoot with and a CCW gun might be 2 different guns. Of the 2 listed the Bersa is a better shooter, the LCP is better for CCW. Most the pocket pistols (LCP, Kel Tec, Bodygaurd) aren't particularly accurate or pleasant to shoot, but will get the job done up close. I would get something that's good to learn on, then worry about CCW later. Bersa (380 or the .22), Walther PK380 (maybe the lowest recoil .380), Neos, Ruger .22/45, etc. are all good choices.

I'm afraid you were wrong...Mormon is the correct answer. http://www.myspace.com/video/sarah/mormons-is-the-correct-answer/195599

^^^ then explain the Cult of Personality http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzdUy90vTuk

It's super creepy that he is still trying to claim innocense.