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Wow, old age sounds like a bitch. That must be the target demographic

A lot of players in the industry are hoping that's the case. Price point is going to have a lot to do with people taking a chance on electric motorcycles. I think the $30k HD livewire is a swing and a miss. But inexpensive bikes like the HD scooter concept have potential to get younger people on 2 wheels that can bring new life into motorcycling.

If long overnight rides were an option I might consider a GW. But I don't see it as a the right choice for around town or just riding for an hour or two. For what I'd use it for a ctx1300 or Valkyrie would be a better choice...and 1/3 the cost.

I will mosdef keep riding for the foreseeable future. But I go back and forth on exactly what that means. I don't seem to like group riding as much as I used to, except with just a select few people like the WV this year with @Pauly and @Blitz. Plus due to life responsibilities, long rides just can't happen as often as they used to. I like riding 2 up with the gf, unfortunately that kind of means a cruiser, and I just can't seem to find a cruiser I actually like to ride. I'll probably buy another bike for 2up rides this year. Possibly a ctx1300, even though it doesn't check all the boxes

Isn't the entire motorcycle market shrinking? There's a few healthy niches, but overall sales are way down.

Not sure what "Now" is. We are going to the RIU Palace Riveria Maya.

We usually book in Nov, but don't travel until Feb. It's something to look forward to all winter. That swim up bar is calling my name 🥃

Speed limit signs say "Speed Limit." That is a curve rating for trucks and school buses. The conversion for motorcycles is x3

Not everyone knows how to be fun

I think Honda's problem is that Honda Marketing keeps answering the questions that no one is asking. They tend to make bikes that are fun and well sorted, but less features than competition with higher prices. The results have been sales flops. Ctx700, ctx1300, fury, nc700x, vfr1200, Rune, 8th gen interceptor, that black Batman scooter, Valkyrie, CBR650, etc, have all aged on showroom floors with deep discounts. None of them are bad motorcycles. They just keep building bikes that Americans don't want.

Totally impractical, but I kinda like the 2nd gen Valkyrie. It's a stripped down goldwing that weighs about 150lbs less. It's a big motor, wheels, and not much else.

...and Epstein didn't kill himself.

Is that Jonathan Cain form Journey?

or https://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ktm/2020-ktm-890-duke-r-first-look.html

Wow. HD developing something that actually sounds kinda cool. https://www.cycleworld.com/harley-davidson-developing-group-riding-adaptive-cruise-control/

Something like 90% of sportbikes will never see a closed circuit. The only street bikes I could make a case for not having cruise are those specifically geared for new riders. The $15,999 CTX1300 (touring bagger) not having Cruise Control is straight up retarded.

Now that everything is RBW. Why doesn't every motorcycle have Cruise Control? All the sensors are already there and the necessary data is already in the ECM. The only 'extra' parts that are needed are the handlebar controls and the indicator on the display.

And that's been Honda's problem for the last 10 years. They don't build what riders want, they build what they want riders to want. They are a generation behind on features, and a generation ahead on price. Hondas are generally well sorted and fun to ride, but there have been so many models that sat in showrooms until they were deeply discounted. There are still a decent amount of brand new 2014 CTX1300s sitting in showrooms. 2014

Some states have things like mechanics liens that can result in a new title being issued. AFAIK they are pretty specific and a PITA.

During my brief HD ownership experience, which included breaking down on the side of the highway, I have to say I was super unimpressed by what passes for Harley service. It had a design flaw where the battery would drain after 4-5 days of not being ridden. There was no official fix, but some home remedies such a wiring a big ass switch to the battery to break the circuit, because...character. Also take a look at this medieval steering/geomerty adjustment test. My HD had a nasty clunk in the steering head. Rock-and-Roll HD wanted to charge me $300 for this test, rather than replacing a defective piece inside the steering head. I had to bring them the actual HD TSB to show them what needed to be fixed (aluminum sleeve in the steering head would deform, the replacement part was steel). The service manager got kind of shitty with me..."Listen we've been doing this for a long time and we aren't replacing parts until we do a fall away test." Me "what the fuck is a fall away test?"

I've always thought of myself as a "riding" enthusiast more than a "motorcycle" enthusiast. There are certainly motorcycles that have caught my eye over the years, but I'm more drawn to capabilities than the actual machine...if that makes any sense.

Wait, you're wanting a twin? You must be getting old...lol