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How about a political thread where opinions take a back seat to facts, and different viewpoints are thoughtfully discussed in a reasonable & calm fashion?

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Based on FB, Troy Benson has passed away Can anyone confirm? I don't know any details.

I used to have a VFR1200. I still have a Ventura Rack bracket for mounting a tail pack. Want it?

After looking more closely at this bike the design makes less sense. This is absolutely another form over function HD, which will makes no sense at all for an ADV bike where function is everything and form means nothing. Look how close the rear cylinder is to the front of the seat. When riding a big ADV bike though fire roads, double tracks and single track trails you tend go go pretty slow and crawl around in lower gears picking the best line. At slow speeds the bike will be running hot. Would you want your knees or shin resting that close the rear cylinder or heat shield? Why is that much of the engine exposed anyway? Most ADV bikes are packaged with the engine low and forward to keep the weight distribution more manageable. LED turn signals on the hand guards on an ADV bike? Really? Hand guards take abuse on trails, the good ones have inserts that can be replaced cheaply when they get broken...and they do. Turn signal should be mounted out of harms way so unpaved tip overs are less expensive. I could go on, but it's pointless. I'm not even convinced this motorcycle will ever actually make it to showrooms.

Same. Dunlop tires are the equivalent of Fram filters. They are widely available and extremely mediocre.

Couldn't give it away here, so I sold it for $75.

Out of curiosity, do you hate money? HOG will never be in my portfolio. I don't want them to die if they build relevant motorcycles and stop letting the styling dept overrule engineering (which is a fact by the way). If they keep building the same then I just don't care what happens to them. I bought 3 Buells to support relevant American Motorcycles. The recent Street Rod (which was touted as a game changer to win younger riders) flopped because of the god-awful riding position...which was the sore spot in every single review. That Pan American is interesting. But, hey would you look at that seat? Never saw a flat seat like that on anything with Adventure aspirations. It looks nothing like a seat for an ADV or an ST. But it sure does fit the lines of the blocky styling doesn't it? And...that V Twin is on display just like a cruiser...looks pretty high on bike though...and top heavy designs are especially problematic for slower ADV riding. Almost looks like it was designed by a moto-stylist that will never ride a motorcycle on a "B" road, or has any idea what's involved 😨

The fastest and slowest I'll ride is solo.

After weeks of sliding and wheel spin, I ditched the Dunlop RS3 in favor of a stickier Angel GT. efff Dunlop forever.

Someone should buy this. Same bike as mine with under 100 miles for $9k. That's half of MSRP. http://www.clickpowersports.com/r/?id=1297FBEE-AE57-471F-9DB1-ABFB0133559C&d=3279&t=1 Dynamic suspension, cruise, and all the nannies.

If you weren't aware. NBC/SN is carrying MotoGP this season. https://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/2020/07/02/nbc-sports-announces-motogp-telecast-schedule-for-2020-season/ I just watched the Spanish GP. It was very interesting. I won't give spoilers, but it should be a wide open season.

That's kinda why I like the Versys 300x. It strikes a good balance. It's fine on the highway and good enough on gravel and dirt, and under 390lbs. I'll buy one as soon as Kawasaki puts the Ninja 400 motor in it, which is hopefully next year.

Angel GTs have much more grip and last a bit longer than Roadsmart 3s in my experience. RS3s are honestly the least grippy ST I've tried, in a couple hundred thousand miles. I just pulled the the RS3 rear off my bike today. Complete garbage. Dunlop will never touch my motorcycle again. Comparing the Angel GT to the RS3 side x side (I literally did this today). The Angel GT's profile allows for noticably more lean angle. The only positive thing I can say about the Roadsmart 3 was that the wet grip was pretty good... that's it.

Uncle Touchy?

It was a great day sun up to sun down.

Planning a off road excursion?

On average over 7,000 people die in the US every day. Total deaths, not just Covid. The way they count Covid Deaths is extremely misleading.

How do you like that Guzzi? Do you know if they offer a factory passenger backrest?

Source? That sounds different than what I remember from biology classes.

So, yes. Definitely entertaining.

Like what? Is it at least entertaining?

I don't have any issue wearing masks. They aren't particularly bothersome or inconvienent. https://www.wkyc.com/amp/article/news/local/cuyahoga-county/gov-mike-dewine-issues-order-mandating-masks-7-ohio-counties-including-cuyahoga-huron-and-trumbull/95-7bde3e2f-aa3f-4af3-a095-15ac5fa3dc41?fbclid=IwAR1fALc_cl8Wwn3nc7hnZc2Lxg4t4wOrxxXct8rtTmLSEgwC_Ud_eTFygPU