Ok, I could just say so much without stepping on toes. I think there is already laws about killing people on books. So if those laws don't work, then banning / restricting any device (gun, car, hammers) will also not work. So, do we just leave the conversation at "don't go to bad places" I suppose i don't need a car to get to work or shopping since there are public busses. So I don't need a gun since there are police to prevent crimes in the event a person does not obey the laws. I do "want" a car so I can travel on my own schedule. I do want a gun, just in case the police aren't around and something does happen that would be a threat to me and my family.