Well, you know what they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Inevitably one mans standards will be different than anothers. And from what I can tell about your conversations with ninjachic in these open threads, yours are definitely lower than mine. But hey, whatever floats your boat, nothing personal to you, or ninjachic. Oh yeah, as much as you'd like to think I'm jealous of you. That couldn't be any farther from the truth. It's comical, makes me laugh! I love watching guys like you trying to run their game in clubs and shit. You are right though, I hope to find a real one some day!