hahaha because of the few seconds we take, we get to have life time memories honestly i only take time if i am riding with smaller groups who i know well, or else i just put it there and hope for the best, and mostly it doesnt come out good like the big group ride if only i spent an extra 2 min to double check the angle it would have been so awesome. Sure will let yoy know, i usually pm the neo guys around here if we plan a ride, nowadays we try to go early morning hence i dont since most of them dont want to do it. sure will let you know, if you dont mind pm me your mobile as i can txt every one easily. also do check the ride and events thread where we post rides. But your a pure breed track rat right?