Yeah, that never works well. I've seen that kind of thing devolve into a group of internet strangers bad mouth each other into becoming complete enemies (no joke). Not that that would happen here.... The thing is, everyone has an opinion and nobody can meet every single requirement/ idea tossed out. Best way to solve this is to have any logos or designs submitted by a certain date, and then everyone votes on the logo they like. There should be a quick brief of what the logo must contain, and in my opinion, since NinjaDoc started and typically pushes this ride he should decide the name and logo requirements. And I'm sorry JackFlash.....not trying to offend, but I think your logo questions take the whole thing a bit too seriously. It should just be a fun design we can put on a T-shirt and say that we enjoyed a ride with friends. No need to appeal to everyone or worry about family friendliness. Obviously no designs with dicks or crack pipes, and that should be family friendly enough. Just throwing it out there. Seems like the thread stalled into, like "what" said, Design by Committee. It's hard to ever come up with something pleasing to everyone that way.