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Which one??

Sure that helps, but you're still gonna drag bits (and knees) when you get over far enough.....on any bike. And obviously the heavier the bike, and the lighter YOU are, the less effect hanging-off has.

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How's the VFR on cornering clearance? Because that's one area where the FJR sucks (the reviews called it "drag queen")... And another reason i love the GS...tons of lean angle before hard parts start to spark.

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Well, the F800's don't have the boxer engine style, they are parallel-twins. At any rate, the 1200 boxer GS and RT is what I was referring to. If you could find a good used version, (2009+) that would be the way to go for best value.

Its not the silencer that makes it sound awful, its the engine firing order/timing.

Which BMW were you looking at? I think you'd be surprised by the GS, unless you're shorter than ~5'8". Plenty of suspension for 2-up. No (almost) dive on braking, which is great for 2-up. Torque is there for easy loaded-up riding. Might not be the best comfort for pillion tho. The other option is the RT, which is probably the lightest touring rig.

Well that sux. Work always seems to get in the way of living

Now get thee some lobster!!! Maybe some moose meat too! Wait....isnt yuengling in Pennsylvania??

Does anyone have the automatic transmission VFR1200? Curious on feedback. Now about that engine sound....its even worse than my GS! Better than a HD for sure, but compared to the 800.??...WTF??

That's one way to get your bell RUNG!

Dammit....I've been there 3 times...and it was closed every time. But congrats!

No doubt! I miss my VFR! I had a TBR exhaust can on her. Had several people ask me if it was a V8!

To be honest, I'm sure i wouldn't own a BMW if there wasn't a dealer 2 miles from my house! I probably just wouldn't have had the interest to try them out, especially after once renting a 1150GS...what a turd. However, the newer ones are eye-openers (so is the price tag). Plus the personal care I get is worth a few $$$, over your standard don't-give-a-shit dealer.

I know my brother-in-law would be willing to sell my old 2000 VFR 800 interceptor (yellow) for way under $3000! Only got like 80k miles on her! Seriously, it would probably be a really good bike for someone...Racetech forks and springs, and Penske shock setup for a 200+ pound rider. Givi 21 Liter panniers included. Here she was back in the day...

Welcome! If you have a Harley or a BMW, be prepared to dodge shitballs.

I had 2 VFR800s, and was prepared to get a new VFR when it came out, until that 1200 came out. Then I bought a R1200GS BMW. The 1200VFR is massive, heavy, sounds awful (relatively), and the plastic is everywhere and would be hugely expensive if dropped. Very few people I know liked them, and said they handled poorly. I think that's the biggest reason they brought the 800 back. I never rode one, even tho I thought they looked good. Not sure about the 2010 compared to others.

More Tuscarawas county stuff... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvxMQu8l_do

Yikes.! I've hit a low hanging tv cable with my car. And thought that would have taken my head off!

Didn't he invent Benoit balls???

Actually Kymco (Taiwan) makes some engines (and other parts) for BMW bikes/scooters!

Must be a real secret....the link does nothing!

History prof in college said that there was a whole lot more opium than tea on that boat...the tea was tossed over, but the opium was stolen. Did you steal any opioids???