Trouble Maker

A little virtual world runs on your computer Where a little virtual man leaves a house and family he doesn't like To go to a job he doesn't like Mining coins Until one day he decides to just quit Because the mining was too hard

You would profit for 'today', but what about in the long run as the hash get's more and more difficult? Will you ever actually hit the break even point? I guess the way I'm starting to look at it is, if I just throw/waste $1k, I can buy 0.1BTC, or I could buy an R4. I think I like the gamble of the miner more than just the investment. If it worked well, I think if it paid for itself I would just roll that into another one, or whatever the newest shiny miner is.

I'm seriously thinking about buying one of the miners after reading a few articles. With one of those S9's you'd spend $3k on the machine, $1.5k on power for a year, and end up with 4.3 BTC, about $40k worth of BTC. Am I missing something? Yeah, the computing will get harder over time, but not exponentially harder in 1 year right? Edit: Is this calculator correct? https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/mining/calculator/ 13.5TH/s (Antminer S9 rate) would only get you 0.5 BTC/year at the current difficulty rate? Edit 2: Bitcoin computing power is growing at 0.5% per day (your miner mines that much less/day), but price is going up (makes what you mine worth more). The calculus is a little difficult to see profitability or not with these miners. I'll have to dig into it some more later. Edit 3: My previous post calculation of 167 S9's was based on 'old' info. Assuming the calculator I just posted is correct, you would need a lot more than that now, maybe about 1,500 of them to get 2/day, but that only works for today and you'd get ~1.99 tomorrow, and about 1.98 the next day... I think. But, you'd need about 2Mw of power for those. :lolguy: That amount of power looks like this, by the way. http://www.cumminspowerblog.com/en/files/2012/08/Screen-shot-2012-08-27-at-1.46.19-PM.png

I just did 5 minutes of google research, some calculations, and the result is = you are a potato. My quick image is you would need something roughly in the supercomputer realm (maybe many of them) to get 2 BTC/day. You would need about 167 of Antminer S9's according this article. https://www.bitcoinmining.com/bitcoin-mining-hardware/ Which would put you back roughly 1/3 of a million dollars, assuming the cost ~$2k like that article says. But, they would pay for themselves in 16 days? Quite possibly the bigger issue is you would need 225Kw of power to run all of them. Just as a point of reference, you're house assuming a 200amp service has 48kw running to it, so you would need all of the power running to you and 4 of your mostly friendly neighbors power to run all of them. The S9 miner price might be $3k now, so the up front cost would be closer to a cool half a million doll hairs.

If it were this simple, I'd have someone doing my kitchen, but I'm doing most of it, because contractors are the fucking worst.

I was just thinking the exact same thing, or maybe hedge a little bit and put a few hundred into a few of the big cryptocurrencies, maybe something less in some of the smaller ones? One of my coworkers is talking about 'taking a sizable loan out of his 401k' to invest into bit coin, because he is convinced it will go to $100k+/bitcoin by 2030 based on an article he read. :dumb: He's also talking about moving it around the different cryptocurrencies on a regular basis, sounds like basically day-trading in cryptocurrencies.

TV #1 sold, thanks hpfiend! Someone get this other one out of my way, price lowered to $15

Read the whole series, it's really good.

Yes, sorry about that, made some room and sent you 1 back.

Didn't the put the V6Tupercharged in the S5 at some point?

Both Samsungs I figure someone with more time on their hands and know how than me can probably fix them and have a good working TV for pretty cheap. I don't have the time right now, so I just bought a new TV. TV1 - SOLD Model # UN50H6400AFXZA 50" 1080P 3D LEDd Smart TV w/this really cool motion remote Turns on but just a solid grey screen, worked great until 1 day Poof, screen didn't work. No other issues. Bought in 2014, just died a few months ago. TV2 - $15 Model # LN-T4061F 40" LCD 1080P Dumb TV Works, but sometimes you turn it on and everything is pixelated, then if you turn it off and back on again, it works, or if it doesn't, you turn it off and back on again, and it works. Probably bought it in 2007, used it until I bought the above tv in 2014, sat until that TV died and we used it temporarily for a few weeks, 1 month, until we got the new TV. So, it still functions as I've stated. Both for $70 The real moral of this story is, Samsung TVs are shit. If I'm an idiot for thinking these are worth more than 2 wooden nickles, great, let me know. I really have no idea what a probably fixable TV for probably not much cost is worth.

But you'd be an early adopter buying a used car!

CRZ with a manual is one of the best MTs I've ever driven. We had company lease CRZ CVT for my wife. It was a pretty bad CVT, very disconnected/rubber-band feeling. If it had the MT my friends I drove had, I might still have that car. I really liked the form factor, but I like small cars. My friend just sold his for IIRC<$10k, but it was 'higher' mileage I think, >100kmi.

I'm going to start having work pay me in Hondacoins (at par with USD), then they won't be taxed!

I'm more curious if there has been 1 single person in the history of that law that has claimed anything in this area on their Ohio state tax form.

Apparently my memory is getting poor as a result of 'old age' or something... it's actually a 7kw generator. So, I guess the Fates are cruel and appreciate irony. Power went out last night during the high wind, it's still out now. Generator is not able to be hooked up, I had to remove the wire/box on the outside for kitchen construction and hadn't reconnected it yet. We would have been fine if I hadn't gotten cocky. :lolguy:

Why wouldn't the buyer of the car just exchange the bitcoin to USD and buy it in USD? Why let the dealer get that profit?

Come work as a tech out at Honda R&D as a tech. If you are as driven as I think you are, the sky is the limit. Someone I know has went form being a tech, to one of their (engineering) technical experts. Some of our techs in my department just want to wrench and do as little as possible. 1 of them bust his ass and will move up, he's only been here for 1~2 years; he does 'tech' work, but he also now flashes cars, does diag on any issues their car's have, runs test (in vehicle test driving). If you are serious, PM EC92 on here, he runs a contracting firm; these types of companies 'supply' most of our techs.

I can't imagine there not being 1 person out of all of the people on here not needing or wanting a good working mower for free. This one is not all of those thing though. Like I said, worst case I'll put it out for scrapers and it will be gone in a few hours.

You really want to be grid-tie only. Batteries are a waste of money in Ohio right now, they would cost your more than you 'save'. The only people talking about batteries are preppers and/or people who need to go to The Derek Zoolander School for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Want to Do Other Stuff (math) Good Too. The short story is, they cost too much for the benefit at the current energy rates/cost. It will be a different story in the future as on demand cost differentials increase (or in the case of Ohio, start to exist at all), and the battery cost decrease. They are also way too expensive of a solution for a backup. I put a 5kw gas generator manual switch-over backup in my house for <$1k. For the cost of a Telsa Powewall, you could probably get a pro installed connected to your gas line auto switch-over 20kw+ generator solution. Want to know how many times power has went out in our house before I put it in? Zero. How about after? Also a big fat 0. It will be nice when we finally do use it when our power goes out for a week once in a 10 year span.

Let's say we use about 700kwhr per month, so 8,400kwhr per year. We get maybe 3 sun hours per day here. You are allowed to size your system to 80~90% of your yearly usage. So, 0.9*8,400/365/3=6.9Kw array needed An about 7Kw system is about $11k on https://www.wholesalesolar.com/grid-tie-packages You get a 30% tax credit right now, so actual cost is $7.7k Assuming your total energy cost is 12cents/kwhr all said and done, our bill for 8,400kwhr for the year is a cool $1k $7.7k/$1k=7.7 years I'm assuming 0 out of pocket cost per year, despite only covering 90% of electricity. You can also install another meter to sell carbon credits. From 1 person I talked to, this about covers the cost of the 10% of energy your system doesn't make that you use. And, yes, I need to shop for electricity on apples to apples. :lolguy: Just quick paper napkin calculations. I've done spreadsheets to add in inflation, increased value to the house, etc. Like I mentioned earlier, if you spin the numbers one way or another, you get to 5-10 years. If you have someone install, the cost seem to about double, so payoff time doubles; 14 years. It would be at least as easy as any other large electrical project I've done on my house; I'd just do it myself. But, I get why most people would have someone install them. If you are getting the electrons for cheaper, the time would be longer, so 20 years is easy to see how that could be feasible. Still, then you have (at least) 5 years of free electricity. Most panels are 'rated' at 25 years, that means they are at 80% of original output; there's still life left in them. The value of your house also goes up in the mean time.

Anyone? I'll put it up on the neighborhood free-cycle soon if I don't get any hits here. Then finally put it on the curb for scrappers over this weekend if I get no bites there. It'll be gone in a few hours once I put it on the curb, just hoping I can find someone who can get some use out of it instead of it going to the scrap heap.

I'm really interested in driving the new Accord too. If 'they' did nearly as good of a job on it relative to the Civic I've been driving for 8 months now, It's going to be a really nice car. I'm planning to get the new Si for my next lease car early next year. The Accord would be tempting if the offered the manual with a little higher trim than the Sport, though it is a bigger car than I normally like to drive.