I started this thread as to track times. I know why a lot of people don't want to or can't get the good times at the track. It's a combo of not wanting to break something or they just don't have enough practice with the launch. One of the hardest things to do in a stick car is get the launch down. That is what I am getting at here. To say the track isn't an indication of the potential is a little funny. There are many reasons why I don't roll race, but I don't need to get into that. There is also a reason that people started 1/4 mile racing and not the Roll Racing Association of America. So, if you built your car for roll racing at 450-500 wheel, then I guess that is your poor track time excuse. Once again, this is the kitchen so if your feelings are hurt that is just too damn bad. Where are the rest?