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Depends what you're looking to spend but I have a Challenger SRT-8 on our lot. Lots of fun in a straight line.

Best way to look at it right there. IMO an educated shopper is the best thing. An uneducated shopper that thinks reading 2 articles on AOL and Yahoo autos makes them educated is the worst thing. Unfortunately most salespeople are shitty and treat everyone as if they're uneducated.

It's just the car sales game. Don't think this is me calling you out or saying "this is absolutely how it is" but this is often how we salespeople look at it. I've got a certain amount of time each day that I commit towards selling cars. Of that time, it's divided up into various activities. To name a few, sales and product training, contacting hot leads, speaking to customers who are in for service, creating content for our various internet platforms, following up with past customers, prospecting, and contacting cold leads. When I'm contacting hot leads, I do so with varying levels of urgency. A guy who I believe is within $200 of buying a car is going to get lots of my attention. A guy who I believe wants a price $5000 better than I can to do is going to get very little of my attention. It's not that I don't want your money. It's that if I spend a lot of time with you, I have to spend less time with someone else. I say the same thing to anyone that asks for my advice when they hit a negotiation wall; adjust the car criteria or price criteria and go back at it. We don't ignore customers because we don't want their business. We ignore customers because we can't afford to do business at the price they expect/want.

ITT: the Beige-ification of CR Because dogshit residual value. Those fuckers depreciate like no-one's business, and if they artificially inflate the residual (fastest way to a cheap lease) they end up eating the difference between lease-end value and actual market value. No way they're gonna take a bath in 3 years on those cars. pdqgp is spot on with his analysis, put as little money down as possible at lease inception (usually you have to do first month's payment + tax on rebates).

small dick joke maybe? i'm confused too.

Subprime lending has gotten stricter as well, though it seems Wells Fargo and Ally will buy pretty much anyone these days.

Replaced my gf's lost bluetooth headphones for Vday, got some CBJ tickets, listened to a man try to justify backing out of a car deal because he went shopping without asking for his testicles back from his wife. It's been a fucking expensive day.

No need to apologize. What size frame? Got a buddy that might be interested if it'd fit him.

Still doesn't cover tax :lolguy: Just had another guy back out on me. This month has been one after another after another of flakes. I'm not frustrated with the customers, since 7 of 10 people I talk to results in a non sale (statistically tracked, not made up), I'm really just frustrated that THESE ARE THE ONLY CUSTOMERS I HAVE TO WORK RIGHT NOW. February is a slow month, it's the same every year. Never gets less annoying though.

I figure by the description you're probably not looking to trade that bike + cash for a nice CX bike, are ya?

As someone in the car sales profession, this is absolutely correct. I don't mean to be malicious, because most of these people are truly nice and are frustrated because no one explains anything to them, but when I try to explain math and they get angry at me because it's not what they want to hear, it does get frustrating for me. I'm sorry, a $36000 Challenger SRT8 is not gonna be $300/month with no money down and no trade.

Everything you've said has been my experience, as a car salesman, with them. The S models that get traded in here usually go straight to the wholesale lot; waaaay too much reconditioning to be done. The N/A ones are usually good and we sell them unless they're CVT. Have never heard a horror story from anyone that bought one of them from us.

The problem with the Minis, outside of known issues like the CVT, is ownership. SOOOOO many of them are owned by middle aged women who wouldn't know proper preventive maintenance if it fucked them in the ass. IMO you want one that you personally know was properly maintained. Here's how the typical life cycle of a MINI goes: Owner #1) 0-36k miles. Leases the MINI, takes good care of it because maintenance is included in warranty. Lease ends, they start a new lease, MINI goes on the used lot. Owner #2) 36k-115k miles. A younger or middle-aged woman who, as I said before, has only heard of "preventive maintenance" when in a drunken stupor at Thanksgiving when her father and brothers are arguing over which car they like more. Decides to get rid of the car after years of ownership due to just about everything on the car being broken or needing replacement soon, and she has not done the maintenance regularly. Probably used conventional oil and 87 octane the entire time. Owner #3) 115k+ miles. This poor person. They had no idea what they were getting into. They don't deserve it, but this car will be their downfall. They bought it because it was cute, cheap, and cute. Little did they know it needs double its value in repairs already. They'll be digging out of this hole for a while. Don't be owner #3.

Gut the car except for seats and cage (if it's not already so), make it a mid-engine, RWD LSx monster. And laugh as you do circles around all the silly Miatas.

Nah, I'd rather earn it myself and learn from my own mistakes. He (and my mom) did it that way and they're not doing too badly, I figure I'll get there someday.

You can learn exactly nothing from me, but my old man is a wealth manager. If there's anyone that could turn $50 into $1m, it's him.

Here's a thought, pool all your money and give it to me. I'll invest it properly and statistically, you have a better chance of me earning you each your share of millions than you do of winning the powerball. "But that's stupid, no way I'd do that" you say, as you put your money down on a 1 in 175 million chance to win big (and 1 in 5 million chance to win big but not as big). EDIT/DISCLAIMER: I know nothing about investing beyond what I learn from my pops, who knows a bit about investing.

As far as LBS recommendations, I like Baer Wheels in Clintonville. Bought my Jamis Nova Race there, will probably trade it for a MTB soon. I though I'd get used to the CX style bike but never did, I want to get an MTB like my old K2 that I had growing up.

It's amazing, the places we find happiness are the most unlikely to have been the first choice.

Actually I'm an ordained Dudeist Priest and officiated my friend's wedding in April of last year :lolguy:

MASHUP SERIES FTW! Battling junkyard bots.

My gf is a hardcore anti-religion atheist. I was raised in a semi-Catholic house (my grandmother is Portuguese and probably would've murdered the whole family if I wasn't baptized) but I never cared much for religion. I simply believe in the good nature of mankind, and that those who don't represent that nature will eventually die out. Some have told me that's a transcendentalist view, that I should look at Unitarianism. Really, though, I believe life is too short to do anything that doesn't improve your happiness. If religion has improved your happiness, I'm happy for you. I wish you the best in your life moving forward, and no matter what the cause don't ever let go of what helps you do good for yourself and others.

Good to know all other crime in Franklin County has been cleared up if they're going after this triflin' shit.

not gonna make it tonight hopefully next week. i may try to make a stick & puck tomorrow though

Honestly don't care what this does to the value of my ST, I'll probably sell it to the GF and get an RS when they come out.