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am I the only one in for pics of the soccer mom who drives it

You're injecting way too much emotion into the situation. This isn''t about emotion. Rules are rules and responsibilities are black and white. The gray area that you mention surrounds all of us in life but it doesn't cover up or negate the fact that people need to put priorities in place and honestly, if they are strapped for cash, then they should be going around putting themselves in these situations. Take responsibility in life, act responsibly and don't pull this bullshit when it's your turn to pay. This shit doesn't just happen to them it happens because of them. I'm sorry I'm so blunt. I empathize only so far. Being laid off or sick doesn't negate the importance of acting responsibly and avoiding the ticket or fine nor does it serve as a crutch to not pay the bill when it's due. Sorry. That's life. . To you're point I'll the percentage you speak of as good honest people lack something of what counts when they go around not paying their fines. They may be nice but they are not honest if they drive the city to extremes to collect a fine they themselves are not being responsible for paying. Agian, I don't have sympathy there and you won't change that. The likelihood of that is very slim to none. By the time the collections reaches this point, I think it's pretty fair to say they have exhausted all means to get the money from these people and know who they are and where they are. I've yet to see anyone knock on my door demanding I pay a bill that I didn't incur. Sure, I've gotten a collection call for someone with my same last name, but never a knock on my door. In the very slim chance in hell it happens, oh well. Again, that's life. Cities can't operate on the premise of avoiding the rare instances or operate on exceptions. The comments on their site and yahoo and other "public" hold very little credibility with me. If a cop showed up at my job right now today to clarify a business matter it would be pretty easy to work through. There's no "publicity" other than a little bit of rumor mill BS. In my case my boss would say it was likely Tim Speeding down 270 and the cop finally caught up :gabe: If there's even a shade of something really being wrong, then that's on me for having that "shade" of perception in other peoples mind. AGain, depends on what image and life you lead. For me, not a worry in the world. To others that possibly could have a worry, then they likely brought that on themselves. . Not here. If you don't pay parking tickets or traffic fines, etc....I say have at it. THe BS that debt collectors must follow is exactly that...BS. I hope the city found a way around all of it. Efficient collection and move on. My wife worked for the prosecutors office and I've had plenty of experience with the legal system including ride alongs. That's not what we're talking here. Simple show up, collect money and or process the debtor into the system as noramlly would be done by an LEO. Been there done that many times. I worked in IT and have been behind the scenes of the processes and systems invovled too. However, again, this is simple collections not arresting of every single person involved. If that was the case, there would be a task force involved liken when they go around rounding up all the deadbeat dads. and you've done a fine job. the 10tv.com board posters would be proud. Perhaps, but right now we don't need them to do that as their skill set and authority and impact of showing up to collect a debt is all we really need them for now. There's no greater exposure to the police making a mistake here than any ohter situation they are involved in during the course of their days. They could easily come to my work assuming they are arresting a guy in a similar vehicle with a plate simliar to mine. Again, odds are slim and no greater than any other task in their daily routine. To effectively sue and win a case just as in any other situation that faces them, there would have to be proof of negligence on their part. Again, what people way about their role while on the job means nothing. They don't get their directives and key job accountabilities from what you or I say or what posters on 10tv think. Noise, that's all that the spewing of opinions on them is.

Simple, if you don't pay debts incurred by your own doing, there are no excuses, you pay or by my own declaration, you're a deadbeat. If you want to lump in the 1% that move and lose a bill, etc...then I'll call them dumb-beats. Dumbasses that can't manage their affairs combined with deadbeats that don't care. Either way, not our problem or concern. Pay up. Again, real simple; that noise/drama is not the a factor in collecting money rightfully owed. Sorry, I'm only empathetic to a point but in the case of why, It really doesn't matter. Remove the word deadbeats if it makes you feel better. Bottom line is none of their personal baggage matters. We don't have time for that as a society. . See my post above about the only qualified person here making a comment. I'll let you figure out what his line of work is. Hint, Hint, he knows better than any of us. Now my reasons for specutlation are I know the process for serving a warrant and it's not time consuming. Regardless, I've pointed out that their driving to home or work of someone owing the city money doesn't change their response time or impact the citizens one bit. They are on the job ready to roll regardless. . All municipalities and even their cititzens are money hungry. Collecting debt and profiting from those that don't abide by the laws is not a negative thing. I'd have an even bigger problem if the city didn't take proactive action to collect. So again, money hungry is not a bad thing. We can agree to disagree on the resources used. I've proven my points multiple times on police being good to use and the public response times not being impacted. We don't need to bring in a third party collection agency and pay them 20% or more to do what already employed public servants can do. There's also a value in having these deadbeats be confronted by a LEO at work. Much higher impact value than having a collection call that they will likely continue to blow off occur. I'll bet you $5 they won't fucking skip on a parking ticket again if they suffer the embarrasement of a cop showing up at their job to collect the money. That makes a statement and is worth any delta in cost that is likely minimal anyway. Fact is their opinion doesn't serve a value when it comes to how to financially run the city. They are employees to serve and protect, this is part of the expectations put upon them now. They have an option of finding another line of work if they truely don't want to do it.

Pickups Plus Cars = Pickups Plus Cars Plus Buses ?

You've never seen the cameras on LEO vehicles? Really? Most of the Sheriffs and many of the CPD vehicles have them on the back so that they can scan traffic in both directions. They cruze parking lots, streets, etc...and it runs plates for them against a slew of violations from expired tags to stolen vehicles. Here's an example set up to scan traffic in both directions, two cameras on one side, one on the other. CPD and FCS are set up the same. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_y7NgL5zbq3U/TER5EIjZ20I/AAAAAAAAAtk/8tbGe_LcJU4/s1600/0710_platereader2.jpg

^^ this. Either IPS or PPC Guys went there to tune didn't they? Hopefully not in rough areas like this.

:gabe: http://www.pbase.com/timothylauro/image/145241729/original.jpg

^^ the only really qualified person in this thread that can relate first hand. Thank you.

insert any scenerio you want, a cop on the streets is a cop on the streets no different if he's running radar, serving a warrant responding to another call or collecting from a deadbeat. Thier on the clock and available for a Mary Joe's call just the same. the response times will always vary, and if anything it's easier to walk away from collecting a fine than it is writing up a shoplifter. end of day if you want to blame responese time or costs on anyone, blame the deadbeat. . a good upstanding citizen who decided NOT to pay their bill. in the middle of a move? give me a fucking break, they aren't knocking on the door of someone served 30 days ago. besides, if you don't pay your bill and a cop shows up at work, that's YOUR fault so oh well if you're embarrassed. They serve warrants which is the same thing...they track you down, have authority to do so and will go to the ends of the earth to get your signature. The only difference here is it's on a check not a copy of an arrest warrant. It's exactly in line with what they do. Dude, I thought I typed a lot. ^^ again, inject whatever you want, if the broke dick bastards out there don't like it pay up and shut up. They aren't spending hours "tracking people down" they are going off a list of work and home for deadbeats and in the mean time 100% capable and able to take emergency calls. No need to involve a 3rd party collection agency and IMO it's much safer and more efficient.

she owes you a steak and a bj.

My comments have nothing to do with my personal experiences, it's just a very basic business statement. Do we really expect or want our municipalities looking at people's personal situations when collecting on debts owed? There's no room for empathy only expectations of accountability. Don't get caught up in the drama of others, they wear big-boy pants when they do the crime, they need to man-up and pay the fine. We pay police to serve and protect and yes, collecting fines like this is serviing. It's not going to put them in any different position when it comes to responding to Mary Joe's 911 call. They are either running radar, investigating other crimes, cruising the roads, etc.....no different. They get the call, they will respond. Help me understand how an emergency call is going to be affected any differently by their actions collecting vs doing anything else? Now if you still have a concern, go thank the dead beats not paying their bills. Don't be mad at those trying to hold them even further accountable for making their bad situation worse and costing all of us more money and wasted time. Don't know. Perhaps if they have the resources they will. Yes. Dual role already outlined. Who better to go collect from a skipped out deadbeat.....an officer with authority and a gun for protection. Your anaology here makes no sense. Trash collectors have zero in common in terms of skills that makes them qualified or appropriate to devliver kids. A cop however is an excellent bill collector and meets all the requirements. It's no different than them serviing an arrest warrant only in this case the deadbeats are lucky they aren't and instead are just asking them to pay what they owe the city. So you'll bring more people and paperwork and payroll into the mix thus eliminating the profitability in motion? Not smart. Again, police issue warrants all the time. This collection work is likely safer and easier and more profitable than the cops writing tickets on the freeway. Go to location, collect money, leave, profit. 90% of what a Pic-town cop does is revenue generation. Radar traps, parking tickets, etc....$100 from a deadbeat is no different. ANYONE who doesn't pay a bill they are RESPONSIBLE for and KNOWINGLY skips out doing so is a fucking deadbeat or lazy ass or both. I personally pay my bills and any fines I get. Even if I fall on hard times, I won't skip out on my responsibilities. Like I said earlier, 99% of the deadbeats we're speaking of have cell phones, fancy shoes, watches drink or smoke. You can easily pick something for them to eliminate to pay the fines. They CHOOSE not to. Time for that shit to end. Now if Blockbuster has police officers with legal authority and a gun to collect their customers late fees., then so be it. Last I checked they don't and the city does so the city in turn is using it's resources wisely and getting shit done. Good for all of us.

Big companies pay a lot more taxes, employ a shit ton of people and generally contribute back to society. Now if the deadbeats not paying their fines would do so much.... I'm sure they did and figured the police are already on the clock, whether it's behind a desk or steering wheel. No doubt this is likely more profitable than writing a ticket.

and their personal finance situation is our issue why? fuck that, again, personal responsibility. if they are so broke ass poor then they should be extra cautious and not fuck up their lives further by committing a crime and then to not pay for it. I have no empathy for dumb people. No, putting the cops on this is the wise thing to do. They are on the payroll and streets already and in a car with a position of authority and can handle collections of these fines quite efficiently. Directly to your point about community agencies closing their doors, that's exactly why the city can't afford to not collect. Money owed needs collected. Again, I support putting additional fines in place too. ' The last thing we need is more paperwork. Fuck arrangements. People have money to pay misdomenor fines. Don't for a minute think the average fuck on this list doesn't carry a cell phone, drink beer or buy smokes. Pay up and be done with it. No bench warrant bullshit or waiting for them to be stopped. The I certainly don't want them in jail as that only costs more money. I support going after them with the police.

^^ This you shouldn't have a problem with the cops collecting the money, your beef should be with the cheap fucks trying to skate their responsibilities. If it wasn't for them not stepping up we wouldn't have to disptach the police to collect. IMO they should be charged a 15% fee for us having to do so.

They can erase them if they wish, the burden of proof is on them not him.

This. And Tt a lawyer about leveraging the news media. Six on your side will most certainly be interested. B

Your insurance isn't going to go up for simply inquiring. If they say it's you and you're confident that it's not then find out what their next steps would be and say thank you and ask who will be your contact on their end handling this situation. Get that persons name and thank them for their time. Probably not a bad idea to take a calm reasonable friend with you for the sake of having a witness and someone to keep everyone from talking too much. You don't need to "do" or give them anything at that point. Don't tip your hand or mention anything other than thank you and leave. Then I'd go talk to your insurance co. and see if they will handle it. Let them do the investigation and legal work. Believe me, they aren't going to just pay up any more than the valet company/hotel will. If it is you on camera, don't freak. Do they have you on camera damaging the car? If I'm you and it does turn out that they have you on 4 cameras driving that car I'm looking to see is it the exact car that was damaged? Does the video prove that? If you are shown in the car, does is show you damaging said car? IMO that's the key. Otherwise, there's no concrete proof linking you to the damage or that it wasn't someone else and thus good luck to them. Bottom line is the vehicle owner is likely coming down on them / the hotel and they in turn are coming to you. I wouldn't stress other than perhaps needing to look for a new job.

Get some contact cleaner and clean the contacts for both your body and lenses and then your batteries. My money is on it being the battery contacts interfering with the cameras need for a consistent power supply while firing and writing that many images in a row.

I understand that you are standing by the argument that it wasn't you. That's fine, but you asked for legal advice and that advice stands that whether you did or didn't, you're not personally liable pending some odd agreement you would have signed. Again, did you sign anything? Why would you want to "avoid insurance" ? Do you not have a full coverage policy of your own? Watch the video, and just remember, don't argue with them, that's not your role and that's not the place. If there's a disagreement, just stick to business and find out what they are looking to accomplish and then go do your thing, which could vary depending on the direction they want to go. Say little to nothing as it won't help your cause. It's not your obligation to prove it wasn't you, so what their opinion is doesn't matter nor does your opinion to them.

First, get with your insurance agent and advise them of the details and situation. If you in fact didn't drive/park the car, don't sweat that detail for now. It's less pertinant than the legal situation overall. Valet parking falls into what's deemed a bailment situation whereby the owner of the valet service (contractor or perhaps the hotel or restaurant) are responsible for exercising care of a possession that is temporarily in their care. So long as they are reputable valet organization and no one was being negligent....i.e drag racing the car, etc., the owner of the car is liable for the damages. If the owner of the Lexus pushes it, the insurance company is going to look at the Valet Business' history and business practices, including the competence of it's valets. The illness falls on the vehicle owner that the company you work for was negligent and since you work for them, the owner would go after them not you personally. What papers did you sign when you took the job? I'm looking to see if you signed something to the effect that you responsible for a deductible or damages? Check with your agent first and don't admit or talk to your employer about it any further. Contact your insurance company and let them work it out.

welcome to your 30's man. It only gets rougher. Some have it easier than others but as you get older, it doesn't get easier.

Active or passive? If it's passive let me know if you need glasses Back OT, not a fan. Cool feature but I'm not a fan.

how many here remember her pay per minute ph# line from the early to mid 80's? Joke a day hotline or something like that.

I wouldn't call those ISO's crazy high. A decent SLR can pull down ISO's of 3200-6400 with good dynamic range without issue. 12,800 is pushing it a bit on a 5yr old body but not too much. I can double that with my 5DMKII without any question and get similar if not better quality but I don't carry it out and about too often. Two main reasons for the ISO's though. Shutter speed needed for the focal length shot (hand-held with a non IS Lens). Shutter speeds of 1.5x the focal length are minimums. I shoot for 2x that to get sharp images without issue. However the real reason is to do the very best I can at minimize the impact of the subjects movement. The latter is very important as the impact of a Jellyfish moving at such a close range, even if moving slow will magnify the speeds they are moving. Especially critical since I was not panning with their movements as I would say a race car. Again, much easier to capture an object in movement from a distance than it is up close. Trish is spot on when it comes to the impact of lighting on aquariums. I hope that helps.

Based on his lack of driving skills I wouldn't give that kid any car.