well, there ya go the last part says it all. its a CHEAP BEER. if you want a beer that you can pick up a case of cheap and pound down with your buddies and get shitty, this is it. its way better than budweiser, natty, coors, miller etc. of course its no fat tire or bells. but thats apples and oranges. thats like comparing wild irish rose to a bottle of dominus... if you want something a little more upscale try one of their seasonals. their lord chesterfield and the black and tan are very good as well.