I was going to relocate out to Southern Cal this past June so in 2007 I traveled out to Cali SEVERAL times. I have tons of family and friends out there from Marina Del Rey to San Diego to Lake Elsinore. I rented a car EVERY time I went out to see how I would waver in the traffic. I am a very impatient person and could not take it. My ex lives in woodland hills (san fern valley) and he can only afford to live out there comfortably b/c he can charge $400/hr for his services. My cousin who has a limited education just moved back to Ohio last month b/c she couldn't find work making more than 15 or 16 an hour ANYWHERE. Now IF you think that is good money you would be surprised who expensive the houses are. She was paying $1500 a month for a 600 sq ft apartment. I looked at some smaller condos in orange county/Irvine area and could NOT find anything for less than $500,000 per 1000 sq. ft. My ex's mortgage was $14000 a month for 4000 sq ft. My friends that live in marina del rey rent 1500 sq ft to house their 3 kids and they pay $4000 a month for their mortgage. My cousin lives in lake elsinore (kinda a ummm well different area to live in to be nice) and he paid $420,000 for an 1800 sq ft house with half an acre lot. He had to remodel the entire home. He drives 1 1/2 to 2 hours each way to work every day b/c he has to go through the mountains to get over to orange county. Traffic....lets see bike move in and out of traffic like lunatics. You are allowed to drive in between cars when everyone else is in a dead lock. Scary stuff b/c at ANY time someone could open their car door, etc and there you are riding at 50 +++ mph. There are fatalities almost daily in southern cal. Furthermore, on a friday morning (around 10 am...NOT rush hour traffic) it took me 3 hours to get from Laguna beach (my absolutely favorite place in southern cal) to san pedro which is right by catalina island. Even with my education and training I would have only made an extra 20K a year which would NOT have offset the cost of living out there. Anyhoo, hope some of this helps. Obviously I decided to stay in Ohio....the housing market didn't help either.