r1crusher

NO, the car was not available to me just the same as his uncle. You just don't get it. How was it just as available to me as it was his uncle? Was the vehicle at the dealership during normal business hours? NO! So I repeat it again.....NO, the ONLY thing the dealer did wrong was let the service guy take it home during normal business hours. And somehow I'm the lazy customer, yet I didn't get the car delivered to me at my house so I could buy it.

Then you partially understand my point. No money was put down, the car was still available to be purchased and yet it was not on the lot. Let me ask you this Rob since you're in the biz. Would you take a care home before the end of business hour at your dealership to show it to someone?

I'm bitching about how things were done ya d-bag! The car got sold, so fuckin' what! If the uncle saw it on the internet, so fuckin' what! And dealing with a private seller is not 100% the same as with a dealer, so you'll have to come up with another 'What if...'. You obviously failed to get the point of the issue I had.

All I'm saying is if that is your stand point then why list it and have potential buyers come in and it not be there? That's what people do....they come in looking for a car they found via internet, website, newspaper, whatever. I'm just looking for a straight answer from you but you can't seem to provide one.

Then why list it for sale on the internet and on their website until they have personally gone around to each and every one of their employees to see if they or their family member might want it?

You're right I should have called, but of all the other times I've ever bought cars this was never an issue. The sales manager could have easily told the mechanic to take home on a night when they're weren't open till 9pm. Meh...no matter. It's done and people should know what they could expect from this dealership is all.

Agreed. I found it listed Monday morning. Regretfully I was booked up with conference calls most of the day and didn't get time to call ahead. I wish I could have but didn't and when Justin said he was heading right down the road I figured I would just stop in. And that's where all the fun began.

You're right, they don't care. But no, I won't be doing business with any Montrose group. I'm over being worked up about it. It's just a simple thought I'm trying to instill in others. You expect something to be there, calling, showing up, whatever. I knew when I went in there it could have already been sold. I'm okay with that. But to not have it there during your business hours because an employee took it home and not having any deposit is not right to me. Plain and simple. You're right it's just a car, a hard to find car, but a car none the less. I'll keep right on shopping, just not at Montrose since I'll never know if it's going to be taken home by some employee and sold. And my problem is my lease it going to be up very shortly and given this is the car I want and finding one is difficult, I can't be fucking around with retard dealerships like Montrose.

As a side note, Ken the Professional Salesman just called me back about 10 minutes ago. Told me that the truck was 90% completed to be sold. I promptly told him I had already talked to another salesman who gave me that information....YESTERDAY. He then tells me thanks for coming in and maybe he'll see me again soon. I told him that it's not likely, said goodbye and hung up.

Okay you stupid as they come cock gobbler.... I do have existing relationships with dealers, where I live. NOT IN PARMA. And this has absofuckinglutely nothing to do with any kind of relationship with dealers. I don't call them up and tell them to bring cars home for me to look at. They have a thing for those, they're call DEALERSHIPS! Calling ahead would have saved me the trip out, sure. But I was already out there with Justin. Read the post again ya dip shit! If it's first come first serve I believe I was there DURING BUSINESS HOURS BEFORE THE UNCLE! If someone would have bought it 30 minutes before, fine. That would mean SOMEONE CAME TO SEE IT ON THE LOT AND IT WAS THERE! Are you getting the picture yet Mr. Gobbler?? I'll spell it out for you so you understand this point. The car was taken by the service guy. I showed up and it wasn't there. I leave information to call me as soon as it's back the next day. Now I'll change it up for you. I called to inquire about the car but it was taken by the service guy. I leave information to call me as soon as it's back the next day. Hhhhmm...doesn't seem very different to me. Here....I'll say it again for you asshat. If your business hours are to be open till 9pm, HAVE THE CAR ON THE LOT! If the service guy wanted to take it home after they closed, fine. I'll tell you a story and include you in a way you'll understand: Lets say you head out to your local gay boutique. You're looking for a hard to find 'Monster Ass Terminator' dildo you've been wanting for a while. You heard they had one so you head up there only to find out the guy that stocks product in the back took it home to try it out with his buddy. They tell you it'll be back tomorrow and you can come look at it. You give him your information to call you when it's back (and maybe more). But the next day they don't call and you call them to see. They tell you it's sold. Now, if it had been on display in the shop during business hours you very well could have taken it home and did whatever it is you gay people do. Maybe the sales guy could do what he promises and at least calls back. And yeah, I always walk into a dealership acting like the ass you're are. Lets see...I was there....during business hours....looking for this truck....it was taken home....no deposits were made on it....no equal opportunity to purchase the truck. Hey, at least I know where I can go to more than likely not find the car I'm looking for even if they tell you they have one. Get the picture bright eyes? My 'lazy ass' does have something you probably don't....A JOB! You certainly make a lot of assumptions here my ass pirate friend. I suggest you stick to the topic instead of making false assumptions. Then by all means run your gaping ass wounded self down there and buy every car on the lot! From the tone of your replies you either didn't get any poo on your dick in a while from your man partner or you work for Montrose. I'd probably guess both.

$179 for GP Techs....that's pretty good. My first pair I paid close to $200 when the first came out. My second pair I paid the $179 price.

His uncle is a customer one in the same, but I had to drive out to get my look at it. It wasn't delivered to me for inspection and possible purchase. If the service guys uncle is a potential customer why didn't he come out to look at it? He didn't because they have a policy of letting employees take vehicles off the lot during normal business hours thusly limiting potential buyers an equal opportunity to purchase that vehicle. That's the problem. So what if I called ahead, I would have been treated the exact same. He would take my information down and not called me back. I see no difference on that point. And as far as the last comment of your second sentence, no. I would of had no problem because more than likely that person would of had to put a deposit of some kind down on it before driving off. He is entitled to purchase if he has money on the vehicle. I would of had no problem with that move what so ever. But seeing as this employees uncle had nothing in writing, money down, nothing. I was not give an EQUAL opportunity to purchase the truck. That is not the kind of place I or YOU should be doing business with.

Okay....here's the story (sorry it's long): Justin (JRMMiii) and I decided to hit up a couple dealerships yesterday since we're both in the market for some new rides. He needed to run to Axlerod on Brookpark Rd. in Parma and I just found that morning a TBSS (Trailblazer SS) at Montrose Westside (Mazada), both open till 9pm. So I pick up Justin and we head out. First stop was at Axlerod for him, in....out....done. Next we go to Montrose. We get there, go in and are greated by a guy named Ken Thatcher, Sales Professional (from his business card). I tell him I saw the internet add for the TBSS and would like to take a look at it. He says sure and runs off. Justin and walk around for a few minutes and then he returns and asks me to his desk. I follow him and then another guy comes over, Stewart Davis, Used Car Manager. He introduces himself and then Ken tells me the truck isn't there. I was like, "What do you mean it isn't here?". Thinking it might be out to be detailed or something. Stewart pipes up and says that one of their service guys took it home so a family member could take a look at it. Now I'm thinking why the hell would you let an employee take a car home when your business hours are till 9pm that evening? Yeah, nobody is going to come in after 5pm and want to see the vehicle.....sure. Well at this point I was already like "Oh great, like it's going to come back at all now." Well, Ken is persistent and says the will call me first thing in the morning to setup a time to come out and look it over. I told him I would certainly be back ASAP tomorrow, I give him my information and we leave. So we move today. I get up and head over to a coworkers house for the day since we had several conf. calls we needed to be on for clients. Well.....9am....10am.....11am.....1pm....3pm.....not a single call from my boy Ken at Montrose. So I decided at 4pm to pack it in and head home. I figured I could call them before I leave my house to tell them I'm coming up. So I get home and call Ken but he doesn't answer so I get transferred to the operator. I tell her who I'm looking for and she tries to page him.....no answer. She says she'll page him again.....still no answer. Finally she comes back on and says he with a customer. I tell her I want to speak to another salesman (shit this Ken guy had his chance I talk to some one else). I get a new guy on the phone and tell him I was out last night and the truck was gone and I was supposed to get a return call from Ken so I could come in a look at the truck. He tells me the truck is in the process of be sold as we spoke. I was like "What do you mean!?!?". He tells me that the service guy who took it home the night before, his uncle is signing the paper right now. NOW I'M PISSED!! WTF!! So I'm thinking should I say something or not. Fuck it....I say to the guy, "That is bullshit! I come in from 30 minutes away to see a car that supposed to be on your lot. Yet one of your employees takes it home at 5pm just so he can have the pleasure of personally having his damn family member get a look at it and first dibs!?!??!" So I finish with, "I was there, in your showroom, ready to put a deposit down and possibly sign papers! And the same 'Professional Salesman' didn't even have enough courtesy to call and tell me it was sold to an employees family member first thing in the morning. Thanks for nothing!" And I hung up. What the hell is up with this kind of move!?!? I can see if the dealership closes at 6pm and the guy stayed around to take it home after he was done working. But if your open till 9pm and an employee wants to take the car at 5pm, that's bullshit. Hell!! I don't remember any dealership personally driving a car to my house to let me take a look at it!! If his uncle wanted to see the car, MAKE HIS ASS DRIVE UP JUST LIKE I DID!! So Needless to say I can tell you now, if they got 16 truck loads of TBSS' in and called to tell me I'm only going to have three words for them....."GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!" If this is how the 'Make friends one car at a time' I can't see how they're still in business. So if you're looking for a new car, I will humbly ask that you avoid ANY Montrose dealerships in the area. They obviously have their employees in mind first when it comes to selling cars.

My vote is for GP Techs. I've had two pair and will not buy anything else. Protection is my first priority and the Techs are IMO the best. All gloves are like helmet and will break in over time so that usually doesn't concern me much. But they are still quite comfortable.

Given the fact that not many cars travel these back twisty roads they just will not dry up in any short time. Good luck fellas! Ride safe!

We called the ride to go south....it was a mess out there. Some of us are going to regroup this afternoon and do something somewhere.

And the roads were in absolutely no condition for any spirited riding

NEOer's are out. We turned around in Lodi after stopped for a sanity check and looked at all the rain in Mansfield and south. We might pick something up this way after noon for all those that didn't go down.

At CK now. Not a damn person here yet. Inya is on his way. Roads are soaked in Elyria and what was a clean bike is now dirty. Radar in south shows nothing good and we might hang here if things don't improve. We'll see what the group says here shortly.

You Dayton guys are going to get some rain if you're heading out, FYI!

Up and at'em!! Just checked weather again and it's not good but not bad. I don't know if the rain will end during the ride down or not. I'm sure the roads will be wet also.

Oh yeah Mark....you find my truck yet!?!?

Yippie!! A duc will honor us with it's presence!! It looks like an 8:30 start time. Now if I can just get a ride on it.

Inya, we might want to discuss alternate plans just in case it is raining like the forecast is predicting.

Just use Chrome. Since I switch a long time ago I've only had it tank twice on me. It would still behoove yourself to download a proper system scanner like Spybot and run a scan just to be safe (remember to check for updates after you install it). Also keep in mind that some viruses/malware/etc. infect your system restore area and you might have to turn it off, which deletes it and then scan again.