redkow97 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 All this "I need torque so I can leave the bike in 6th gear at 35mph."Couldn't a 600 just as easily be left in 2nd up to 60? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 All this "I need torque so I can leave the bike in 6th gear at 35mph."Couldn't a 600 just as easily be left in 2nd up to 60?Or they could buy a maxi scooter and not have to shift at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 No one needs anything more than 70hp for the street. Just ban everything above that already. Or at least do tiered classes like in Europe.Shut your whore mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 All this "I need torque so I can leave the bike in 6th gear at 35mph."Couldn't a 600 just as easily be left in 2nd up to 60?Sure, if you don't care about noise, vibration or fuel economy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_c_F Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 No one needs anything more than 70hp for the street. Just ban everything above that already.Or at least do tiered classes like in Europe.You some kind of goddamn communist or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Sure, if you don't care about noise, vibration or fuel economy...I understand it's not ideal. But neither is lugging around in 6th gear at 40 mph. In city riding, I generally shift at around 15 mph, 25, 35, and on up the line. I'll stay in 2nd gear in residential zones to keep my speed down, and bump up to 3rd in business zones to keep the engine a little cooler. I don't mind it one bit. And my bike probably has torque comparable to most 600's, but weighs more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony07R6 Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Well, I sent an e-mail to J and J motors, but the '04 FZ6 has been sold already.And not to me You sure it was sold? The ad was reposted on Craigslist this afternoon around 4pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I understand it's not ideal. But neither is lugging around in 6th gear at 40 mph. In city riding, I generally shift at around 15 mph, 25, 35, and on up the line. I'll stay in 2nd gear in residential zones to keep my speed down, and bump up to 3rd in business zones to keep the engine a little cooler. I don't mind it one bit. And my bike probably has torque comparable to most 600's, but weighs more.3rd gear on my b12 pulls good from 20 to 120. I generally keep it in 3rd in slow-ish traffic or 2nd if it's really slow. 4th for cruising surface streets, 5th for freeway. No 6th gear...zook decided it didn't need another gear...mainly because in stock trim it can't pull 5th to redline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Lol I still have power in 6th at 35... It's not lugging around.. It's conserving gas and keeping noise to a minimum... 6th at 35mph and mybike still pulls harder than an average car on the road... Nobody is talking shit about your 600, it's just preference... I prefer liter bikes for the riding I like, and idgaf if you prefer to rag a 600 to death leaving it in second at 60mph (see what I did there? No reading comprehension.. Figured you would understand) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I can also cruise around in 6th gear at 35 mph, as long as I'm on a level road.With no gear indicator, I sometimes forget to count shifts and end up lookingfor a 7th gear. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Yeah, if you use a 600 for commuting to church. I was referring to actual riding. And your implication is that you do "actual riding?" ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Ermagherd..... Edited June 17, 2014 by CrazySkullCrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsJack Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I've never needed more than 40 hp for the streets or the mountain twisties although I've had more in the past on 650 and 750cc bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1234 Posted June 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 Well this thread got funny You sure it was sold? The ad was reposted on Craigslist this afternoon around 4pm. Um, no.... I just filled out the inquiry form on their website, and I got an e-mail yesyerday morning... Dale Fickes <dale@jandjcycle.com> 9:35 AM (23 hours ago) Thanks for the email but that bike has been sold, Dale And that's it My current deal I'm working on in an '03 ninja 500 in supposedly mint condition for under $1500. He might be able to deliver it on Thursday, so I'm hoping someone closer to him doesn't show up with the $$ in hand. If that falls through, there's a ZZR 600 on Pittsburgh Craigslist I'll look at... and I still have another ninja 500 on the hook, but he wants 2K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted June 17, 2014 Report Share Posted June 17, 2014 I could be completely satisfied with 85-90 rwhp on a bike that weighs under 450lbs wet. More is always fun, but it wouldn't make me any faster on a twisty backroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Copeland Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Wow. Anybody have a suggestion on what oil I should use for maximum performance?Canola works just fine !Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Canola works just fine !Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalksesame oil for jap bikesSausage grease for German bikes. Olive oil for Italian and no oil for harleys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calinazaret Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 sesame oil for jap bikesSausage grease for German bikes. Olive oil for Italian and no oil for harleysI've always put hamburger grease in my Harley but recently I've been thinking bacon upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Depends...If there's budweiser in the tank, go with hamburger grease. If you're running corona and tequila, better off with bacon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 to get almost somewhat back on topic, would there be any interest in a group of us buying cheap first-generation 250's to race against each other? I like racing. I don't like spending money. Racing a (pretty much) stock 250 would be about as cheap as you can get on a big track. the first gen's 16" wheels mean that tire choices are limited, but the lack of super-sticky compounds and low power means that a set lasts you all season, and there is no need to run warmers. I think it would be great fun for 5-10 of us to look into having our own (informal) "first gen stock 250" class within the existing MotoSeries 250 class. The only modifications allowed would be: stainless brake lines, upgraded SPRINGS on/in shocks and forks, and items that make the bike more crash-worthy (i.e. case guards, shorty levers, etc.). You'd have to run the full stock exhaust. If you want to remove passenger pegs, etc., that's fine. Anything that can be done for $0 (i.e. removing stuff) would be allowed. The idea is to not out-spend your way to a race win. Bikes that show up to the track in street-legal trim would be gridded 40' ahead of bikes in "race" trim, if Todd will allow it Then Josh, or anyone else with a baby ninja can show up and play too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Open it up to all 250s and 300s and I am in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1234 Posted June 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Open it up to all 250s and 300s and I am in.Hey, that's not fair to the 250s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I am a girl so its OK, I have no balls so the 300 makes it even. Edited June 18, 2014 by snot 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted June 18, 2014 Report Share Posted June 18, 2014 Sounds like cheap fun.Finding a bunch of first gens with stock exhaust may prove difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) Sounds like cheap fun.Finding a bunch of first gens with stock exhaust may prove difficult you think so? I haven't seen many 250's with aftermarket pipes. I have no major objection to allowing the 2008+ 250's and the 300 in the same class, but the idea was to have the first generation 250 with 16" wheels not be completely out-classed. I guess if people want to waste money on a pipe, they're welcome to do that. I wouldn't though. Something like this would be my race bike. http://cleveland.craigslist.org/mcy/4509764575.html They're asking $850. I would throw $600 cash, or walk. Edited June 19, 2014 by redkow97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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