Apple's announcement today (9-9-2014)

[Josh1234]

I know there's apple haters here, so c'mon out.

 

Word has it that there'll be two larger sizes of iPhone, that the iWatch will be announced but not come out until 2015, and that the new iphone and maybe watch will have an NFC payment option.

 

I think what apple does with NFC payments will determine if the event is seen as a "hit" or not.

 

I'll admit I re-bought into apple stock not too long ago, but It's a LONG term investment, so what happens in the next week or two (or month or two) doesn't matter to me.  Apple events normally show the stock price reflecting the hype and then dipping post-event.  But face it, when apple brings out a watch, a real apple TV, or revolutionizes/mainstreams the mobile payments field, that's when they'll discover another multi-billion industry... and completely own it again, until other companies steal market share.

[smccrory]

It'll be interesting.  Apple really needs to step up its game to compete with Samsung and others, especially if it wants to get into the wearable market.  In my opinion, wearables are going to have to be customizable to replace fashion and luxury watches, to justify anything costing more than a couple hundred bones.  Other wise folks will stick with $100 fitness bands.

[magley64]

Like they did with nfc?

Or the smart watch?

Or the tablet?

They aren't a technology innovator, they're a fashion designer for electronics.

Edited September 9, 2014 by magley64

[Josh1234]

Like they did with nfc?

Or the smart watch?

Or the tablet?

They aren't a technology innovator, they're a fashion designer for electronics.

 

They tend to bring fringe technologies into the mainstream.  "Smartphones" were NOT widely used until the original iPhone.  Neither NFC nor Smartwatches have wide adoption these days, and "fitness bands" that DON'T talk to your phone ARE seeing some adoption... in the next 3 years, mobile payments, NFC, and smart watches WILL see some serious market penetration.  And fitness bands that don't interface with your phone will go the way of the "feature phone" - extinct.  Apple will make these things mainstream... Like it did with tablets.  NOBODY used tablets before the iPad, and now everyone and their kid has them.

[2talltim]

Personally uninterested, as long as sheeple continue to pay the overly inflated prices to be trendy i guess they will always make money.

[magley64]

They tend to bring fringe technologies into the mainstream. "Smartphones" were NOT widely used until the original iPhone. Neither NFC nor Smartwatches have wide adoption these days, and "fitness bands" that DON'T talk to your phone ARE seeing some adoption... in the next 3 years, mobile payments, NFC, and smart watches WILL see some serious market penetration. And fitness bands that don't interface with your phone will go the way of the "feature phone" - extinct. Apple will make these things mainstream... Like it did with tablets. NOBODY used tablets before the iPad, and now everyone and their kid has them.

Pretending that qualifies as innovation is naive at best, and nut swinging at worst.

[ScubaCinci]

You can't argue with haters

[Tpoppa]

The best thing Samsung did was make the commercials where they pointed out that iPhones are for your parents.  There isn't much of a practical difference between Andriod or iPhone in real world usage. 

 

My next phone will a Windows phone if/when my GS2 ever dies. 

[Gixxus Christ!]

There are a few very valid reasons I would never buy an apple product:

Astronomical price difference

Small screens and shitty cameras on iPhone

Constrictive and closed operating system

Can't torrent

No expandable memory

Pretentiousness of fanboys.

[baptizo]

I'm happy with my now ancient iPhone 4.  

[Casper]

The best thing Samsung did was make the commercials where they pointed out that iPhones are for your parents.  There isn't much of a practical difference between Andriod or iPhone in real world usage. 

 

My next phone will a Windows phone if/when my GS2 ever dies. 

 

And that's how I know you do nothing in IT.

[Casper]

Like they did with nfc?

Or the smart watch?

Or the tablet?

They aren't a technology innovator, they're a fashion designer for electronics.

 

How's Google Wallet working out?

Or the Samsung Gear?

Or any Android tablet? 

 

You're not a Libertarian, you're a cheap democrat.

 

[smccrory]

There are a few very valid reasons I would never buy an apple product:

Astronomical price difference

Small screens and shitty cameras on iPhone

Constrictive and closed operating system

Can't torrent

No expandable memory

Pretentiousness of fanboys.

 

Not that it matters - buy what you want as long as it's not a Blackberry or Windows Phone, but:

1. Astronomical price difference - Typically about $0-50 between comparable models.  Across 2 years, that's like $3/mo.  You own 3 motorcycles, so... ;-)
2. Small screens and shitty cameras on iPhone - Look at the new 6 and 6 Plus and say that again :-)
3. Constrictive and closed operating system - To do what?  I'm in I.T. and used to think that mattered, but I no longer tinker with mobile operating systems.  Perhaps you do.
4. Can't torrent - Isn't a PC a far better Torrent device?  Annyway, what are you torrenting ;-)
5. No expandable memory - True, you choose your capacity when you buy the phone instead of spending roughly the same $ adding RAM later.  So, if you're a heavy portable media user, just buy the largest capacity i-device.
6. Pretentiousness of fanboys - Why does that matter to you?  I have a friend who's a rabid Android fanatic, but I wouldn't let that stop me from buying a good Google device

Like I said, it doesn't matter to me, and both the Android and Apple ecosystems are very strong and stable, so the choices of 1 or even 1 million people isn't going to make a dent in either.

[Tpoppa]

And that's how I know you do nothing in IT.

 

Don't be so sure.  I've done over 500 corporate software implementations, some with user populations in 6 figures.

[magley64]

How's Google Wallet working out?

Or the Samsung Gear?

Or any Android tablet?

You're not a Libertarian, you're a cheap democrat.

I use isis mobile wallet (softcard) it works well enough and the rewards are great. I get a dollar back with every single transaction.

Samsung gear is okay, Motorola seems to have stolen their thunder though.

Android tablets work just fine, Xoom and galaxy tabs are great devices. Even the Kindle fire.

[Casper]

I use isis mobile wallet (softcard) it works well enough and the rewards are great. I get a dollar back with every single transaction.

Samsung gear is okay, Motorola seems to have stolen their thunder though.

Android tablets work just fine, Xoom and galaxy tabs are great devices. Even the Kindle fire.

 

Yes, definitely the descriptions of excellent engineering. 

[Gixxus Christ!]

Doesn't the ipad cost hundreds more than a 10" Samsung tablet?

I haven't used a pc since I got a good smartphone. I torrent eveeything; movies, tv shows, music, porn...

Look at the price difference for the 8 gig vs 16 gig iphone. Then go to ebay and buy a 128 gig card for like $35

[magley64]

No expandable memory - True, you choose your capacity when you buy the phone instead of spending roughly the same $ adding RAM later. So, if you're a heavy portable media user, just buy the largest capacity i-device.

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I don't know where you buy your micro SD cards but if it's anywhere near the price jump from 1 iPhone to the next, you're severely overpaying.

[magley64]

Yes, definitely the descriptions of excellent engineering.

Work better than the shitty iPhone 4 I bought. Never again.

[Casper]

Work better than the shitty iPhone 4 I bought. Never again.

Pretty confident in saying it was an ID ten T error.

[smccrory]

Doesn't the ipad cost hundreds more than a 10" Samsung tablet?

I haven't used a pc since I got a good smartphone. I torrent eveeything; movies, tv shows, music, porn...

Look at the price difference for the 8 gig vs 16 gig iphone. Then go to ebay and buy a 128 gig card for like $35

 

Ah, I was just comparing phones since there weren't any tablet announcements today.  Yes, there is a massive price difference between iPads and the Android tablets.  Also a fair point about memory.

[smccrory]

Pretty confident in saying it was an ID ten T error.

 

PBCaK (or PBCaP in this case, and that's quite a feat for an Apple product!).

 

To be fair, all the Apple devices I've owned have flaws.  Same with the PCs, girlfriends and motorcycles (except my beloved Strom - she's purrrfect).  Arguing about which ecosystem is better at this point is pure nerd folly.

 

Apple stuff tends to be more expensive across the board, especially the laptops.  I just bought a MacBook Pro for my daughter and paid double what a Dell would have cost, but I considered it worth it for its ease of maintenance, relative security boost, great battery life, excellent screen resolution and performance for the same processor class.  Similarly I own a V4 iPad because it does everything I need it to do with a consistent interface to my phone and MacBook.

 

That doesn't mean PCs and Androids are bad choices - they're not at all - for the money, they're excellent.  But there is something about the Apple experience that's hard to put a finger on.  To some, it matters enough to pay the higher ticket.

[magley64]

there is something about the Apple experience that's hard to put a finger on. To some, it matters enough to pay the higher ticket.

Marketing.

[smccrory]

Take their new watch, for example.  Hands-down, if you already have an iPhone (which is requires), it's the best wearable you can buy at any price and has far better style, size factor and usability (if today's demos are accurate) to date.  IMHO they really thought this one over from the ground-up.  Apple engineers and partners truly considered the ergonomics of something as personal as a watch.  Compare the new Apple watch's ergos with Samsung's and there's just no comparison.  It's like comparing an Omega Seamaster to a circa 1985 Timex calculator watch.

[smccrory]

Marketing.

 

Experience.