Steve Butters Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 So for 11k miles I've been riding with my adjustable clutch lever on setting #3/6....today though, the bike grinded slightly going into first gear from neutral leaving a light and then the next light it wouldn't go into gear at all... I kicked it hard 3-4 times and it went. Tried again at next light and same thing. Pulled over and clicked my lever to setting #4/6 (longer pull) and it works flawlessly again. I don't like the extra length though, the clutch doesn't disengage where I'm used to.... I'm just curious what could cause the lever to need adjusted after several years of no issues. Has this happened to anyone? Maybe the lever is wearing out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Can't imagine the setting has anything to do with this despite what you are saying above. Just does not make any sense. Flush it out with clean fluid, I am betting air or bad fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer_kaw Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 The longer throw on the lever will push the masters piston deeper in the cylinder. Giving a bigger push. Could just be old fluid. Have you changed it before? The slave is probably getting gummed up. If the fluid doesn’t work pop the slave out and clean it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durk Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 I know my cbr clutch fluid is to be inspected every 4K and changed every 12k. I have never had trouble with it going into gear. I flush it every 12k. The bike now has 50k. I feel for you every time you post about your bike giving you issues. You and Andy are really hurting my Honda love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Slave is a good call. The Whale had that issue at 50ish k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 Thanks guys.... Sounds like I will start with fluid and go from there. It's a 2012 with 12k miles and original fluid. Sounds like it's due. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 I change and flush brake and clutch fluid every 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Go buy the brake line vacuum tools from Harbor freight. You hook it to your airline and suck the fluid through so you can do it solo. Very handy. Probably about 20 bucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Brake fluid is comprised. As it gets hotter, it will fail more. Condensation causes the brake fluid to deteriorate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Tonik said: Slave is a good call. The Whale had that issue at 50ish k Would this feel like a very late clutch engagement? Two rides ago, the Whale had a "sluggish?" clutch. Yesterday it was fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Worn clutch plates will also alter the engagement point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello dude Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Steve Butters said: Thanks guys.... Sounds like I will start with fluid and go from there. It's a 2012 with 12k miles and original fluid. Sounds like it's due. Its more than due... .its overdue..... Kinda leads to the brakes too... been changed and flushed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 My new bike uses metallic stranded clutch fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Yeah... the Hyper has the lightest cable clutch I have uver used. Am a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Pauly said: Yeah... the Hyper has the lightest cable clutch I have uver used. Am a fan. For dem one finger clutch ups. Also the brake fluid if you havent already. I change mine about 2 times a year. Edited August 13, 2019 by TimTheAzn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Pauly said: Would this feel like a very late clutch engagement? Two rides ago, the Whale had a "sluggish?" clutch. Yesterday it was fine. What I experienced when it happened was the clutch not fully engaging until it had been released for awhile. Awhile being a few seconds....I would have completely let it off and it was still slipping a bit...then it would fully engaged. Only happened when it was first started up. If I let it sit for five minutes at idle when first started it would be fine. All of this was over in a day, I tore it down in a parking lot in Austin and cleaned it up. It is VERY noticable when it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 It doesn't seem to be slipping, but the lever felt very disconnected from what was happening...like a poorly dubbed Chinese film. Things weren't happening in synchrony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, Pauly said: It doesn't seem to be slipping, but the lever felt very disconnected from what was happening...like a poorly dubbed Chinese film. Things weren't happening in synchrony. It's probably user error.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, TimTheAzn said: It's probably user error.................. Based on how many times he stalled the hyper Saturday that is a good guess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 How could you see that from 2 miles behind me? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 DOT4 or DOT 5.1? My bike specifies 4, but I've seen a few people who recommend 5.1. Any difference/benefit to either? I'll be swapping the brake and clutch fluid out this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 You can use either, but NOT 5 it has to have the .1 on the end. .The difference does not matter .1 has a slightly higher boiling point. So whichever is cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted August 23, 2019 Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 boiling point,$ and availability. just not 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2019 Okay thanks. I'll go with 5.1 just because it's so fucking hot out here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 Finally got around to doing this.. Used dot 4... Set lever back to 3 and it's all good 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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