89mark Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 This older guy white he needs to fucking retire. Worthing is about to become the new valleyview. hahaha valleyview cops are ridiculous. anthony (heelside) will agree with me on that. that sucks joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew2o2 Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 It was the old dude with the suv right. I knew him pretty well from bobs evans when i worked there he would come in alot. He also ticketed my buddy for putting his car over a curb but filled the shit out wrong so he got it dismissed. Your best bet to fight the ticket is the following. I do not know the actual time period however i know there is one. Cops have to pay to have the radar guns calibrated regularly, many dont. You ask for documentation saying you do not believe you were going what they said and if he didnt have it calibrated you get off. Reason i know is because florida got something like a 1.5yrs of all speeding violations thrown out because cops didnt calibrate there guns. One cops gun clocked a tree at 90mph! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Speed S4 Posted November 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 It was the old dude with the suv right. I knew him pretty well from bobs evans when i worked there he would come in alot. He also ticketed my buddy for putting his car over a curb but filled the shit out wrong so he got it dismissed. Your best bet to fight the ticket is the following. I do not know the actual time period however i know there is one. Cops have to pay to have the radar guns calibrated regularly, many dont. You ask for documentation saying you do not believe you were going what they said and if he didnt have it calibrated you get off. Reason i know is because florida got something like a 1.5yrs of all speeding violations thrown out because cops didnt calibrate there guns. One cops gun clocked a tree at 90mph! It was a crown vic. But I just paid the ticket. I don't feel like dealing with court again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew2o2 Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 I know you own a german car just because you were going 52 on billingsley. Any other car 52 would be painful. I live right by billingsley, only road in the area i dont speed on often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 If I would have seen this thread earlier I could have saved you some trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 hahaha bout the tree going 90mph. thanks for the knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted November 25, 2007 Report Share Posted November 25, 2007 It was the old dude with the suv right. I knew him pretty well from bobs evans when i worked there he would come in alot. He also ticketed my buddy for putting his car over a curb but filled the shit out wrong so he got it dismissed. Your best bet to fight the ticket is the following. I do not know the actual time period however i know there is one. Cops have to pay to have the radar guns calibrated regularly, many dont. You ask for documentation saying you do not believe you were going what they said and if he didnt have it calibrated you get off. Reason i know is because florida got something like a 1.5yrs of all speeding violations thrown out because cops didnt calibrate there guns. One cops gun clocked a tree at 90mph! ..... Your info is invalid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew2o2 Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Thats what i told by one of my teachers, what are you saying is correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedrx7 Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 it will not get thrown out just for improper calibration. There is a good chance it could be but the judge decides. Also i dont believe they send the gun out to be calibrated. It is calibrated by them. They use a tuning fork to calibrate the gun. Now the thing with this is, that tuning fork is set to vibrate at a certain speed. Sometimes the fork is thrown in the trunk and hit on different things. It will no long vibrate at that speed anymore. The gun will be calibrated incorrectly anyway. It could only be a couple mphs if that but still it is incorrect. Crusiers today have calibrated speedos. An officer using his speedometer to clock you can be used but will not be as accurate. Planes are used to catch speeders as well. Only problem with that situation is it is an average speed. not a true speed. If this was me i would of gone to court talked with the prosecutor and tried to make a deal. If it did not happen than i would of plead not guilty. The prosecutors on the first floor are fresh outta school. They usually do things by the books and do not allow deals a lot of the time. When you plead not guilty you go to a different floor. The prosecutors there are a little more understanding and just want to get this resolved. This however does go back to the judge if this is something he would allow. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew2o2 Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spckc7 Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 i would just pay it off. less money, less time. it'll basically come down to your word vs. the officers....and guess who they're picking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vander Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Can't you get a prescription for tint if your eyes are sensitive to sunlight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twistedrx7 Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 vander yes you can but it only applies to the windshield i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 i would just pay it off. less money, less time. it'll basically come down to your word vs. the officers....and guess who they're picking? this thinking is why most people pay there tickets and the cops get bigger dicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkside Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Go to court and talk with the prosecutor. It can't hurt, you're going to pay court costs even if you waive the ticket. The prosecutor doesn't have the time to fight every ticket and a plea to a lesser charge is still a win on his portfolio. Courts are all about the money. An officer as said before, doesn't have to show anyone the radar. Most departments have companies come to their station and certify their equipment once a year. The officer has to press a self calibration button and tuning forks once a shift to satisfy most courts. Arguing about the tint ticket is senseless. You can correct the tint problem in thirty seconds. Good luck with what you decide, if you have the time its worth it to speak with the prosecutor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Speed S4 Posted November 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Can't you get a prescription for tint if your eyes are sensitive to sunlight? Yes, thats what I'm trying to do now, I really don't want to go through with removing the tint again. I had 15% tint on the celica and got a tint ticket and had to pay 120 to get the fronts re tinted. Anyone know of a cool eye doctor that can get me a prescription for tint? haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstalliongt Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Speeding tickets never get over turned, that 2nd tint ticket is shit. I think it happened to my roommate too. They have to give you time to have the tint removed or replaced, I'd fight the tint ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 personal experience here speaks better than anything else: first off, they are NOT obligated to show you shit I don't think, and even if they do it doesn't matter if they clocked someone else and said it was you. I was clocked doing 80 in a situation that was physically impossible for me to be doing 80 (I was pacing the car in front of me doing 70, which I realize was still above the limit but no way I was doing 80) and there was nothing I could do in court. It sucks, yeah, but ya deal with it. As for the tint, if you have it fixed by the time you go to court, they'll toss that fine. Probably. As for the calibration, thats not even a question. Cops are supposed to and in my experience always do calibrate their detectors at the beginning and end of every shift using precise tuning forks that correspond to specific speeds. They work perfectly and you won't win that argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Worst case if you can come up with something at all that is suspect and could lead to taking the case to court, you'll need to argue it with a lawyer or else you won't get anywhere. If you show up without a lawyer, they have zero reason to take you seriously as you're no threat. If you show up with a respectable lawyer.....one that knows the prosecutors and is on good standing with them they will plea it down. Prosecutors absolutely don't want to go to court for such small things and the appearance of a lawyer means you're serious and paid money to do so and are much more likely to tie up the courts time fighting something. I did this on a 95 in a 55 reckless op charge that I got caught with. Long story short, I knew it was BS that I was pegged for it but that doesn't mean squat and I knew arguing it with a $40k/year cop running speed enforcement wasn't going to change that. The cop was young and had lots of adrenaline and I'm sure my car and plate didn't help me on the spot. Brought my wifes good friend who worked with her at the prosecutors office and it took him all of 5 minutes to talk with the cop and the prosecutor. I walked away with a small fine and a 2pt speed violation. In my case that was a great deal vs a 6pt hit and a hefty fine plus insure issues/costs for years to come. personal experience here speaks better than anything else: first off, they are NOT obligated to show you shit I don't think, and even if they do it doesn't matter if they clocked someone else and said it was you. I was clocked doing 80 in a situation that was physically impossible for me to be doing 80 (I was pacing the car in front of me doing 70, which I realize was still above the limit but no way I was doing 80) and there was nothing I could do in court. It sucks, yeah, but ya deal with it. As for the tint, if you have it fixed by the time you go to court, they'll toss that fine. Probably. As for the calibration, thats not even a question. Cops are supposed to and in my experience always do calibrate their detectors at the beginning and end of every shift using precise tuning forks that correspond to specific speeds. They work perfectly and you won't win that argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 breaks down like this, if you broke the law you man up and pay. If you didn't break the law, plead your case and bring proof (even though the burden is in the prosecution). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Speed S4 Posted November 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 But I just paid the ticket. I don't feel like dealing with court again. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 i love how its still going on even when you paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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