Reed44 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I know the all mighty ls1 is better and makes gobs of power. What about the LT1 though? What kind of potential does it hold? I have heard that an lt1 with headers will beat a stock ls1. I am talking about f-bodies here not the corvette. Please discuss the topic, I want some info on the lt1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan93z28 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 im a fan of the lt1, because its cheaper. i also like how its the same basic design as every other small block made before it, with the exception of reverse-flow heads, and the infamous optispark, and some other details. idk about an lt1 with headers beating an ls1 though. that sounds like its pushing it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPFSTheFett Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I know the all mighty ls1 is better and makes gobs of power. What about the LT1 though? What kind of potential does it hold? I have heard that an lt1 with headers will beat a stock ls1. I am talking about f-bodies here not the corvette. Please discuss the topic, I want some info on the lt1. I've owned 3 LT1's and 3 LS1 powered cars and can tell you a LT1 with headers alone will not even come close to keeping up with an LS1. My bone stock 98SS dynoed at 300rwhp exact, as they were severly underrated. As far as modifing the car, sure you 'may' be able to find items cheaper for the LT1 but the fact remains there are only a handful of LT1's running 11's on motor, while every head/cam LS1 does it. The LS motor is not only lighter, but the stock head design is far superior to that of an LT1. Then you have the problem with the optispark(which they now have options which fix this). If you had 10,000 to spend on a car and modifications after your done, the LS1 would be faster. Just my opinion I've personally never been happy with my LT1's and I had one running 11.19's(yes exact and every pass:) ) and another running 10.3's. Oh... and for reference. My wifes automatic 99 Z28 ran 13.6's the day we bought it and my automatic 97 Z28 ran 14.4's stock after LT4 (stock) heads, LT4 hot cam, 3.73's, shorty headers, and intake, I managed a 13.5. Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed44 Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I forgot about the flow of the heads. That seems like a big draw back. How well does the LT1 respond to nitrous? I know the LS1 loves every bit of a 150 shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99crb600 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I forgot about the flow of the heads. That seems like a big draw back. How well does the LT1 respond to nitrous? I know the LS1 loves every bit of a 150 shot. mine loves nitrous!..dont know much about and LT1 other than i have never come close to being beat by one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 INB4 30PAGE THREAD... Dude LSX > * /thread.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 LT1 parts have gotten a lot cheaper from what they used to be, granted they do have potential to make the power. GO LS1, you'll be better off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPFSTheFett Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Both LT1's and LS1's love nitrous. I've had more success with nitrous on my LT1's but when I was adding it to LS1's they were brand new. (98/99) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 mine loves nitrous!..dont know much about and LT1 other than i have never come close to being beat by one! You never raced me at the track......... LT1's respond VERY well to nitrous. LS1's are better motors; they also tend to be more expensive to mod. I decided to sink a bunch of money into the LT1, and I guess I will see where that takes me. There are plenty of LT1's in the 9's and 10's, and a few in the 8's as well. LT1's don't have the block options the LSx guys do, so are far more cubic inch restricted. LSx guys get the better heads and igniton too. If I were to do it all over now, I'd go LSx. But when I started, that wasn't even a viable option, and decided to stick with what I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l36tols1 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 yeah pretty much LS1 > LT1 I have respect for both but every driving both stock for stock you can't deny the power of the ls1 I'm sure they will go down in price once the new camaro hits the streets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99crb600 Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 You never raced me at the track......... LT1's respond VERY well to nitrous. LS1's are better motors; they also tend to be more expensive to mod. I decided to sink a bunch of money into the LT1, and I guess I will see where that takes me. There are plenty of LT1's in the 9's and 10's, and a few in the 8's as well. LT1's don't have the block options the LSx guys do, so are far more cubic inch restricted. LSx guys get the better heads and igniton too. If I were to do it all over now, I'd go LSx. But when I started, that wasn't even a viable option, and decided to stick with what I have. ok like i said i have never been beaten by one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I've owned 3 LT1's and 3 LS1 powered cars and can tell you a LT1 with headers alone will not even come close to keeping up with an LS1. My bone stock 98SS dynoed at 300rwhp exact, as they were severly underrated. As far as modifing the car, sure you 'may' be able to find items cheaper for the LT1 but the fact remains there are only a handful of LT1's running 11's on motor, while every head/cam LS1 does it. The LS motor is not only lighter, but the stock head design is far superior to that of an LT1. Then you have the problem with the optispark(which they now have options which fix this). If you had 10,000 to spend on a car and modifications after your done, the LS1 would be faster. Just my opinion I've personally never been happy with my LT1's and I had one running 11.19's(yes exact and every pass:) ) and another running 10.3's. Oh... and for reference. My wifes automatic 99 Z28 ran 13.6's the day we bought it and my automatic 97 Z28 ran 14.4's stock after LT4 (stock) heads, LT4 hot cam, 3.73's, shorty headers, and intake, I managed a 13.5. Jason The above post explains it. Also, a 150 shot is nothing to those blocks. I actually had a 200 shot on my car for a little while last year. I took it off because I realized I was probably making about 615+rwhp and 650+rwtq (estimated). Thats a recipe for disaster with a stock bottom... or so I've heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linn1647545492 Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 A built LT1 motor will struggle to make over 400rwhp where as a stock bottom end ls1 can make close to 500rwhp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I like the LT-1 because of the pricing. I can get one much cheaper than I could an LS1 motor. If I got either, I wouldn't be modding it too much, anyway...college and no $$. So it doesn't matter to me. Yeah. Post ho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimpsy1647545505 Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Ls1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed44 Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I know that ls1's are far more surperior. I just never hear of numbers from the lt1 and people modding them. What can a LT1 handle? What would you expect from H/C nitrous, headers, and tune? I plan to either get a sn-95, fox ( very doubt full), or LT1 f-body in the near future. You can get these car for around 4-6k with decent mileage on them. 6-speed LS1's are 8k-up. I only have goals of 400whp-450whp. what mods would equal that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I'd say you could get that on either rather safely on just some spray. Personally if you have up to $6k to spend on the car, don't settle for anything other than an LS1, its fairly easy to find one for that price tag, high miles or not. The money you'll save in mods for the same power on an ls1/lt1 could also go towards the purchase price. I think of lt1 f-bodies as $3k-$4k cars, not $6k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I know that ls1's are far more surperior. I just never hear of numbers from the lt1 and people modding them. What can a LT1 handle? What would you expect from H/C nitrous, headers, and tune? I plan to either get a sn-95, fox ( very doubt full), or LT1 f-body in the near future. You can get these car for around 4-6k with decent mileage on them. 6-speed LS1's are 8k-up. I only have goals of 400whp-450whp. what mods would equal that? There are plenty of different ways to get to 400whp. Here are 2 quick examples. Ls1 Intake Exhaust Tune 75-100 shot LT1 Intake Exhaust Tune Ported heads 75-100 shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkent93 Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I'm an LT1 guy....I like it and you can make any domestic v8 powerful, but its easier and at this point, probably cheaper in the long run to just start out with an LS1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUTAN TA1647545492 Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 There are plenty of different ways to get to 400whp. Here are 2 quick examples. Ls1 Tune 75-100 shot LT1 Intake Exhaust Tune Ported heads 75-100 shot FIXED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 FIXED I didnt want it to seem too easy lol! Plus the extra air flow helps the naws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadz89GTA Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 I know that ls1's are far more surperior. I just never hear of numbers from the lt1 and people modding them. What can a LT1 handle? What would you expect from H/C nitrous, headers, and tune? I plan to either get a sn-95, fox ( very doubt full), or LT1 f-body in the near future. You can get these car for around 4-6k with decent mileage on them. 6-speed LS1's are 8k-up. I only have goals of 400whp-450whp. what mods would equal that? Gillbot on here has his 02 Z28 with just a cam/headers/intake/tune doing 400rwhp exactly, and he never has to refill the bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Gillbot on here has his 02 Z28 with just a cam/headers/intake/tune doing 400rwhp exactly, and he never has to refill the bottle. It would take between $1,300 and $4,500 ($4,500 if you buy expensive parts and have someone else do the installs) to achieve that. Nitrous can be done for under $1,000. Either way you better save money to fix your transmission an rear end. Around 400rwhp is when stuff starts breaking in those cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadz89GTA Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 It would take between $1,300 and $4,500 ($4,500 if you buy expensive parts and have someone else do the installs) to achieve that. Nitrous can be done for under $1,000. Either way you better save money to fix your transmission an rear end. Around 400rwhp is when stuff starts breaking in those cars He's still on stock rear and stock trans. I'll let him chime in whenever he sees this post, ask Anthony or any of the COFBA guys about his car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 He's still on stock rear and stock trans. I'll let him chime in whenever he sees this post, ask Anthony or any of the COFBA guys about his car. I dont doubt it, a lot of people do it. In the end it comes down to how the car is driven. The rears in these things are definitely weak, but if you dont launch it at 4000rpms it'll hold up longer. I do think that a car making 400 should beef up the tranny though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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