Guest Hal Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Well, balls of steel-ish. I came across this on another site and thought some of you guys might like reading it. For obvious OPSEC and PERSEC reasons, I won’t state the Team nor the full names of the men in this particular operation. I will state that the injured man’s name is Doug and we will leave it at that. The Team was tracking a targeted insurgent who had apparently fired an RPG at a US helicopter. The Team was clearing a house when Doug and his buddy kicked in a door and ran right in on 4 hadji’s with AK-47’s who immediately opened fire on the 2 men. Doug’s partner was KIA almost instantly. It happened so quickly they did not even have time to react to the 4 awaiting bad guys. It is amazing Doug was able to survive. In the initial hail of gunfire, Doug had his M4 shot out of his hands and lost part of his finger. This happened before he was even able to fire a shot. Since it happened so quickly, there was no opportunity to take cover and Doug played this one by the book. Instead of running and ducking for cover, realizing he lost his M4, he drew his 9mm sidearm. Doug was shot 17 times with AK47 fire!! 3 shots hit the SAPI plate on his body armor in the chest and they were deflected. 12 rounds went through his body (entered and exited soft tissue areas)! 1 round went in between his 2 testicles (talk about someone looking out for you) – due to this round he cannot have kids anymore, but his “boys” are safe. The final round hit the bottom of his SAPI plate and entered and lodged into his lower abdomen. He has a temporary colostomy bag while healing but no permanent damage thank God. Now in the midst of this barrage of gunfire sustained by Doug, he still managed to draw his sidearm and with 18 rounds of 9mm ammunition he managed to eliminate ALL 4 bad guys. That shows what a determined SEAL is capable of doing with proper training. Keep in mind – 18 rounds he needed to take them all out and the magazine holds 14. That means he had to do a magazine exchange during the fight! And this all happened with Doug in the middle of an ambush with a KIA teammate, himself trapped inside a doorway getting sprayed with automatic gunfire and returning fire with a pistol. With the 9mm pistol he said it took numerous shots to take down each bad guy. One fucker he had to finally take down with a headshot. And this all went down before the rest of the Team closed in on this exact position. They were in other areas of the clearing area and courtyard searching for bad guys as well. Doug was evacuated and spent 2 days at Walter Reed. He then took convalescent leave to spend some time with his wife and family after this very close call. Before he was discharged from Walter Reed and sent on his leave, Admiral Olsen wanted to meet with him and to pin his awards on him. While speaking with Admiral Olsen and the Teams Senior Chief, Doug tells them that he wants to get back to the Team as soon as possible or at least do something at Little Creek as an advanced instructor. Admiral Olsen thought for a moment and then told Senior Chief to schedule Doug as soon as possible to attend firearms training. Doug was confused and immediately pointed out that he had already attended all the basic and advanced firearms training and was even an instructor for advanced handgun training for some of the East Coast Teams. So Admiral Olsen replied, "well young man, I guess you're gonna have to go back as a student because I understand you killed 4 bad guys during the firefight but you had to do a magazine exchange...aren't there 14 rounds in the magazine and why if you had so many rounds in the weapon did it take you that many rounds to put down the bad guys? Obviously, you need to go back for some refresher training." Doug was (needless to say) stunned and it took everyone in the room a few minutes before they realized Admiral Olsen was just fucking with him. Admiral Olsen does have a sense of humor. Doug has been nominated for the Navy Cross. He is recovering very well and expects to return to limited duty sometime very soon (this month). This is a great lesson on keeping your calm under fire. Doug fought with the heart of a lion and is alive today because of it. Hoo-Yah Doug. We are very glad you made it! You are a true warrior of the highest caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan9381 Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 aren't there 14 rounds in the magazine and why if you had so many rounds in the weapon did it take you that many rounds to put down the bad guys? hahaha. good read though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 That man kicks some serious ass. Talk about balls of steel, that's damn right. Freakin' sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe_no Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 That shows what a determined SEAL is capable of doing with proper training. proper training, ha! they go around in pairs of two hoping to take on the world or something? i say its providence, he obviously should have died like his partner, maybe the jihad really suck 7 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 proper training, ha! they go around in pairs of two hoping to take on the world or something? i say its providence, he obviously should have died like his partner, maybe the jihad really suck Go fuck yourself. Go read about SEAL training you fucking prick. I seriously cannot stand to read your ignorant posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Go fuck yourself. Go read about SEAL training you fucking prick. I seriously cannot stand to read your ignorant posts. + a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan9381 Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 we should have a navy seal vs coupe_no death battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 proper training, ha! they go around in pairs of two hoping to take on the world or something? i say its providence, he obviously should have died like his partner, maybe the jihad really suck Get out now, seriously. The epitome of stupid has been displayed in this thread, and saying that man should have died when he is fighting for your dumb ass and your rights shows you really don't appreciate much of anything in this country, or what anyone does to preserve it. Lucky? Extremely. How long till this gets moved, I wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotCarl Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 proper training, ha! they go around in pairs of two hoping to take on the world or something? i say its providence, he obviously should have died like his partner, maybe the jihad really suck Please tell me your kidding. I thought you were ok, albeit a bit eccentric with your views but your not going to have any fans if you honestly believe what you posted. Im kinda surprised too... I mean, usually right wing nuts like yourself are gung hoe about anything relating to the military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate1647545505 Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 God forbid you ever have to fight for your country. proper training, ha! they go around in pairs of two hoping to take on the world or something? i say its providence, he obviously should have died like his partner, maybe the jihad really suck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrhobbz Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 proper training, ha! they go around in pairs of two hoping to take on the world or something? i say its providence, he obviously should have died like his partner, maybe the jihad really suck idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 proper training, ha! they go around in pairs of two hoping to take on the world or something? i say its providence, he obviously should have died like his partner, maybe the jihad really suck I'm now positive you are trolling . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe_no Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Lucky? Extremely. thats what i meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 thats what i meant Very poorly executed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe_no Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Go fuck yourself. Go read about SEAL training you fucking prick. i have read about SEAL training, they have their respect from me he did awesome in the situation he was in but he never should have been put in that situation (lack of backup) and i didnt mean he should have died, i meant, with 4 ak47s being shot at him he should have died like his parter (and you cant simply brush it off as beating the odds, maybe the jihad suck at shooting or something), its hard to get that accross on the webz cliff notes: first post caused confusion, cleared it up above 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonneVille Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 How bout this; THINK before you hit the post button. http://www.mos95b.com/Smileys/ban.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadz89GTA Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 proper training, ha! they go around in pairs of two hoping to take on the world or something? i say its providence, he obviously should have died like his partner, maybe the jihad really suck This fucking jackoff needs banned. http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6248/banned3gp2.gif http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6248/banned3gp2.4c1b7c8da3.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelloman4571647545499 Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 and i didnt mean he should have died, i meant, with 4 ak47s being shot at him he should have died like his parter (and you cant simply brush it off as beating the odds, maybe the jihad suck at shooting or something), Tell that to my brother who was holding his friend that got shot in the neck. Than two days later shot in the top of the helmet and kicked his helmet off. Navy seals clear with two people in a house but they usually are a 5 to 7 man team such as Delta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 I have no doubt of that guys marksmanship. Sounds like an argument to return to .45 ACP instead of 9mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelloman4571647545499 Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Seals have said "whats it matter when you send two to the chest and one in the head" when referring to caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChris1632X Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 I was also trained "two to the chest, one to the head", but I am sure that while having 7.62 rounds going through your body that may be hard to accomplish and one might be doing well enough just being able to pull the trigger while pointing in a direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 He may also have been shooting with his other hand after losing part of what I assume was his trigger finger. I don't know how he was able to do what he did, hit 17 times he still managed to kill the 4 guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 proper training, ha! they go around in pairs of two hoping to take on the world or something? i say its providence, he obviously should have died like his partner, maybe the jihad really suck that's pretty much the best way to get negative "rep" points here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 Seals have said "whats it matter when you send two to the chest and one in the head" when referring to caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted March 28, 2008 Report Share Posted March 28, 2008 I have no doubt of that guys marksmanship. Sounds like an argument to return to .45 ACP instead of 9mm. That was my guess too. If you are going to put a round into somebody, it needs to be a larger caliber to fubar their insides - 9mm is just too small a round for true stopping power. I'm sure it is challenging aiming for a headshot with a finger missing. Pin one of your fingers back that you usually write with and try to sign your name, I'm sure that would show how different something can become when you have a body part dismembered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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