KennyFKINPowerz Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 Well I have not seen anyone post this so I figured i would. Whats everyones take on Issue 3? Are you for the casinos in Ohio or against them? I personally think the purposed plan to build one in the arena district would be awesome. Not only will it bring a boost to our local economy but it will create jobs and make the arena district more exciting. And I am tired of driving to Indiana and giving my money to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan9381 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 i dont mind casinos in ohio. ill vote to get them here again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotCarl Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I'll definitly vote for it, thats another few thousand (fairly good) jobs downtown plus it will make Columbus a better place for tourism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cNeutron Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I will vote for casinos. Kinda weird though there has been a ton of pro casino adds on tv. Not a single one against it. I have never seen so much for a bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmrmnhrm Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I'm saying 'No', but not because I'm against casinos. I'm against this particular issue because it (like the others before) specifically calls only certain cities, and contains a 'cash vs. credit' loophole. I will support a casino measure if: 1. It allows casinos anywhere in the state. You pay, say, a $100 million builder's fee and a $10 million annual license, and if you want to be a stupid businessman and stick it in Holmes county, more power to you (I hear those Amish are a gold mine just waiting to be tapped!) 2. Taxes are charged on gross revenue, not "cash transactions" or "ATM withdrawls" or any other fancy-schmancy rubric. No matter how that dollar gets into your system, whether it's by gambling, food+alcohol sales, or Vegas-style showgirls, it gets taxed at the point of entry. 3. The casino operator is responsible for external security and law-enforcement (catching drunks before they drive, keeping the hookers off the streets, etc) through the hiring of off-duty and retired police officers. These folks already know the law and are both local and ready. Internal security (pit bosses, the folks staring at the camera monitors in the security offices, etc) may be brought in from out of state on a temporary basis to train locals. I'm not so stupid as to think someone fresh off the street is able to do this as well as someone with 10 years experience at it. If the transplant wants to move here on a permanent basis rather than a 6mo or 1yr contract, fine by me. Give me a smart casino bill, and I'll vote for it. This one isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verse Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 How much do you think a dealer makes annually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 The Other Paper is claiming that the FOP is only supporting it because a portion of the taxes would be going straight to them. Neat that they are buying the police, not that its new or anything. Beyond that, I need more info before I'll make a decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 My sister worked in Vegas at the Hard Rock and made about $95k/year dealing black jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 If had the casino pay enough tax to eliminate city income tax, it would pass with flying colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyFKINPowerz Posted October 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I heard that in the plan the Casino is paying a 50 million dollar license fee and 33% of the taxes come back to the state. However surrounding states have a 400 and 500 million dollar license fee so the state is getting kind of screwed but it still has its benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger1647545502 Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 I'm voting "no" because the people that want me to vote "yes" are filling my TV time with asinine and annoying commercials. I didn't care either way before those commercials started, but now.....backfired! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowflake Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 The quality of hookers would go up big time if we had a casino around town. I say yes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotCarl Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 My sister worked in Vegas at the Hard Rock and made about $95k/year dealing black jack. And thats just about the easiest game to deal too. Dont forget to mention they do make tips on top of salary but im sure they have to claim those tips.... maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verse Posted October 11, 2009 Report Share Posted October 11, 2009 And thats just about the easiest game to deal too. Dont forget to mention they do make tips on top of salary but im sure they have to claim those tips.... maybe. Doing some looking around on google says that most make close to minimum wage then the tips are what help. Every dealer except poker dealers have to throw their tips into a pot and it gets distributed evenly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig71188 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I'm saying 'No', but not because I'm against casinos. I'm against this particular issue because it (like the others before) specifically calls only certain cities, and contains a 'cash vs. credit' loophole. I will support a casino measure if: 1. It allows casinos anywhere in the state. You pay, say, a $100 million builder's fee and a $10 million annual license, and if you want to be a stupid businessman and stick it in Holmes county, more power to you (I hear those Amish are a gold mine just waiting to be tapped!) 2. Taxes are charged on gross revenue, not "cash transactions" or "ATM withdrawls" or any other fancy-schmancy rubric. No matter how that dollar gets into your system, whether it's by gambling, food+alcohol sales, or Vegas-style showgirls, it gets taxed at the point of entry. 3. The casino operator is responsible for external security and law-enforcement (catching drunks before they drive, keeping the hookers off the streets, etc) through the hiring of off-duty and retired police officers. These folks already know the law and are both local and ready. Internal security (pit bosses, the folks staring at the camera monitors in the security offices, etc) may be brought in from out of state on a temporary basis to train locals. I'm not so stupid as to think someone fresh off the street is able to do this as well as someone with 10 years experience at it. If the transplant wants to move here on a permanent basis rather than a 6mo or 1yr contract, fine by me. Give me a smart casino bill, and I'll vote for it. This one isn't it. +1 - You don't change the state constitution to say exactly who and where you build casinos. I have no problem with casinos in Ohio, let people gamlbe here and and keep the money in state. Since we need to change the state constitution to do it, at minimum, the bill should be something to the effect: The state shall allow up to (insert number here) casinos to be licensed in the State of Ohio. Said licenses will be sold to the highest bidder with a minimum annual fee of (insert x million here). Licenses will be renewable by the license holder every (insert years here) and the licensing fee collected annually. After that, turn the state legislature loose to clean up the details. As I understand it, the guy running all the ads against the casino bill last time (because he wasn't included to get a casino), got "written in" to this sweatheart deal, and now, little or no opposition. Let's have casinos - but do it the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtschulze Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 +1 - You don't change the state constitution to say exactly who and where you build casinos. I have no problem with casinos in Ohio, let people gamlbe here and and keep the money in state. Since we need to change the state constitution to do it, at minimum, the bill should be something to the effect: The state shall allow up to (insert number here) casinos to be licensed in the State of Ohio. Said licenses will be sold to the highest bidder with a minimum annual fee of (insert x million here). Licenses will be renewable by the license holder every (insert years here) and the licensing fee collected annually. After that, turn the state legislature loose to clean up the details. As I understand it, the guy running all the ads against the casino bill last time (because he wasn't included to get a casino), got "written in" to this sweatheart deal, and now, little or no opposition. Let's have casinos - but do it the right way. Another +1. The state constitution isn't just some Word document that you can edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwashmycar Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 The Other Paper is claiming that the FOP is only supporting it because a portion of the taxes would be going straight to them. Neat that they are buying the police, not that its new or anything. Beyond that, I need more info before I'll make a decision. The FOP is full of communists. I personally don't mind the casinos, I don't think it's going to be all that they're cracked up to be. Not to mention, one in the Arena district will add to the cluster fuck of parking that already exists there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I love casinos but I am not voting for something that wants to change the Constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwilli1647545487 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Yes, I need more outlets for my gambling problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergwheel1647545492 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Yes, I need more outlets for my gambling problem. i'm going to vote no on it just so i can spend more time with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hwilli1647545487 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 i'm going to vote no on it just so i can spend more time with you Only if that time is spent gambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Only if that time is spent butt sechs. Fixt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwishiwascool Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I vote no on this issue, yes for casinos if a decent bill gets proposed. post 2 Preview: http://assets3.indy.com/photos/279825/default.jpg we can do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ry_Trapp01647545522 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 voted yes last time, i'll vote yes again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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