99crb600 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I have a ls1 auto car. Im going to be installing a ms3 in it this winter and im wondering what size of converter i should go with i have heard everything from a 3200 to a 4000! need a couple more opinions before i order! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSXRAntwon Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 http://www.LS1Tech.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 talk to the converter guys....the people you will be ordering from! also talk to other people with similar setups....see what worked, didnt work for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8tn Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 what other mods? I would personally look in the 3600 range but like what's his face said....talk to the people at yank or PI and get their input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Get a 3800 Brandon. The way my car felt was on a 3600 yank. 4000's feel a little too loose for driving around town (in my opinion). A 3800 on an MS3 will get that other wheel of yours off the ground too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Personally I'd lean towards a 4000, but I would keep the STR down closer to 2.0. Not all converters are created equal and doing your homework will pay dividends. There is lots of info on LS1tech, but my opinion would be somewhere between a loose 3500 or a tight 4000. When you have a clue what I'm talking about start making phone calls to people who make converters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I dont see how people can drive 4000's. Even the tight ones are jerkey as shit when daily driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I dont see how people can drive 4000's. Even the tight ones are jerkey as shit when daily driving. I'll be finding out first hand this spring, I don't think it'll be all bad playing with the lock up function and holding 3rd at lower speeds if I have to but we'll see. I'm running a smaller cam and my car doesn't see it's real torque band until 4000 so I'm not going to cut down on my stall. I've been in a few 3500-3600 stall cars and I think they drive fine and how well it does on the street is just a matter of good tuning and opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I dont see how people can drive 4000's. Even the tight ones are jerkey as shit when daily driving. switch pitch stator! 1000 rpm stall in town...4500 at the track!:bangbang: alot goes into a converter, to make it what you want/need. mine, 9.5" billet with a 1" thick anti ballooning plate. 4800 stall...granted, i can foot brake it to about 3200 or so..on the brake tho..its going to be a new ball game. and i know 3rd gear isnt going to slip any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 (edited) I'll be finding out first hand this spring, I don't think it'll be all bad playing with the lock up function and holding 3rd at lower speeds if I have to but we'll see. I'm running a smaller cam and my car doesn't see it's real torque band until 4000 so I'm not going to cut down on my stall. I've been in a few 3500-3600 stall cars and I think they drive fine and how well it does on the street is just a matter of good tuning and opinion. Converters, cams, gears, its all opinion. I saw this dude with his car stalling every 20 seconds say his car was a great daily driver I had a few people get in my car and say my 3600 was too loose. Brandon, the brand of converter makes a huge difference as well. Read through this (especially number 7) it will make things make a lot more sence. http://www.converter.cc/faq/ Edited November 28, 2009 by V8 Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I dont see how people can drive 4000's. Even the tight ones are jerkey as shit when daily driving. I drive a 4000 w/ 2.5 STR and it drives great, Scott can attest to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlr8tn Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I just changed the lock up settings for mine to only lock in 4th above 45mph. I don't really do much city driving though so heat really isn't an issue with mine. I have a 3500 with a 2.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 I drive a 4000 w/ 2.5 STR and it drives great, Scott can attest to that. I forgot all about your new converter, yes it works great. Drives as good as my 3000 did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99crb600 Posted November 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 thanks for all the info guys! Brian i think im going to go with a 3600 yank! That would be sick to see both tries off the ground! What tranny coolor are you running? Now i see tranny issues in my near future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 What tranny coolor are you running? Now i see tranny issues in my near future! A really big one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 you should run 8000 stall, all the cool kids are doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattsv8 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 i was runnin a 6000 stall in the s10 on the street but its not fuel inj. worked great. at slower speeds highway was a no no too much slippage and rpm. nothing like 4600 to go 60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippy1974 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 call yank ! best converter out there and they will build it just for you and your car . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 call yank ! best converter out there and they will build it just for you and your car . I had mine restalled to 3600 after trying a 3200 first. Sprayed through it plenty of times and its survived 2 destroyed transmissions. Customer service is great as well. If you do run into tranny issues they will cut it, clean, and get it back to you quiclky and for a great price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippy1974 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I had mine restalled to 3600 after trying a 3200 first. Sprayed through it plenty of times and its survived 2 destroyed transmissions. Customer service is great as well. If you do run into tranny issues they will cut it, clean, and get it back to you quiclky and for a great price. yea there dam good converters ive put down 750 rwhp and 703 rwtq threw mine . i think i need mine restalled and might send it back this winter . i changed my setup and went with a 7xx lift soild roller cam and my converter is only a 3300 for the nx because i run a big shot and as u no u cant have a good motor converter and a good nx converter so i picked nx converter but it tightened up when i went with this cam so i think i got 2-400 rpms it can be lossened up some . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontiacfreak142 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 I'll be finding out first hand this spring, I don't think it'll be all bad playing with the lock up function and holding 3rd at lower speeds if I have to but we'll see. I'm running a smaller cam and my car doesn't see it's real torque band until 4000 so I'm not going to cut down on my stall. I've been in a few 3500-3600 stall cars and I think they drive fine and how well it does on the street is just a matter of good tuning and opinion. yea with that 4000, yours will prolly drive about like mine does now. It cruises fine in OD at 40 mph and up, but much less than that and it starts jerking around pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 yea with that 4000, yours will prolly drive about like mine does now. It cruises fine in OD at 40 mph and up, but much less than that and it starts jerking around pretty good. You might be surprised how much of that can be eliminated with some tuning in the transmission and converter tables. There are more then a few reasons this happens, mine would do the same thing if I try to lock the converter up under 50 with light throttle. Unfortunatly most tuners seem to spend all their time on the engine controls, and most tuning issues with autos is all in the trans settings. I can't tell you how many cars I've been in that slam gears, short shift, or bounce of the rev limiter. Just another reason I keep telling you to start tuning yourself, nobody is going to put the kind of time in that you will to get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racerdad916 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 I'd listen to AJ. he's one of them smart kids.... vehicle weight, rear gear, cam, etc..etc.. all play a huge part in what the converter stalls/flashes. Knowing what your peak torque and hp numbers are will help the converter guys hit the stall right, the first time. A 4000 stall in your 3200 pound street car with a 3.42 rear gear will not flash the same as a 4000 stall in a 3000 pound car with less motor and more rear gear. As the combination changes, so does the stall. When you call the converter guys, ask about sprag options. High HP cars will kill a standard sprag real quick. We broke the one in the race car in about 4 auto-x laps. Ask lots of questions, and have all of the data I mentioned above. It will help you get the right one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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