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this was the only pic i could find to guess what he was using...its a bar but its on 2 guides and when you twist it, it has hooks that grab posts next to the guides... makes it easier to do without a spot, i can see why he wouldn't think he needed a spot if he was using this at an easy (for him) weight.

 

http://personaltrainerlpc.com/images/a_kathy_smith_machine_bench_press.jpg

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this was the only pic i could find to guess what he was using...its a bar but its on 2 guides and when you twist it, it has hooks that grab posts next to the guides... makes it easier to do without a spot, i can see why he wouldn't think he needed a spot if he was using this at an easy (for him) weight.

 

http://personaltrainerlpc.com/images/a_kathy_smith_machine_bench_press.jpg

 

lol...a smith machine like a said earlier? but the OP said he was doing incline bench press, like this...

 

http://www.criticalbench.com/exercises/pics/incline-bench-press1.jpg

http://www.criticalbench.com/exercises/pics/incline-bench-press2.jpg

 

i guess he could have rolled one of the benches over that you can raise the back to do incline on the bench, but that x ray picture looks like the bar dropped at an angle, and the smith machine wont go off angle...so unless he twisted his head, it looks like he was doing it with free weights

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lol...a smith machine like a said earlier? but the OP said he was doing incline bench press, like this...

 

http://www.criticalbench.com/exercises/pics/incline-bench-press1.jpg

http://www.criticalbench.com/exercises/pics/incline-bench-press2.jpg

 

i guess he could have rolled one of the benches over that you can raise the back to do incline on the bench, but that x ray picture looks like the bar dropped at an angle, and the smith machine wont go off angle...so unless he twisted his head, it looks like he was doing it with free weights

 

You can use a smith machine to do incline.

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It was a Jones machine, not a Smith.

 

they look like the same thing....it looks odd that the bar hit him at angle when those machines are rigid...he musta realized he was dropping it and tried to move his head or something

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depending on the person...i went to HS with a football player that benched 425+... if 250 was heavy for this guy, it wouldnt make sense for him to not have a spotter... do you know why he didnt have one by chance?

 

250lb may not be too bad, but it's enough for your head apparently. A glass isn't very heavy for me, either, but I've dropped one before, you know? Better to be safe than sorry.

 

My condolences go out to his family.

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You can use a smith machine to do incline.

 

i know...thats what i was saying about you can roll a bench over and do incline on the smith machine with one of the benches that pivots and raises one end to an incline.

 

they look like the same thing....it looks odd that the bar hit him at angle when those machines are rigid...he musta realized he was dropping it and tried to move his head or something

 

exactly what i was thinking...thanks for putting it into different words.

 

but i googled "jones machine" to see what that was, and this is what i find on one of the first hits from the website...sad that this is the first thing i see-

 

http://www.beyondmoseying.com/bodycraft-jones-machine.html

 

The Jones Machine is not just another Smith, it's the next generation of Smith.

 

Completely safe for the solo lifter! With a simple twist of the wrist, the weight bar is racked into place. Adjustable safety spotters are included to add that last extra measure of security.

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but i googled "jones machine" to see what that was, and this is what i find on one of the first hits from the website...sad that this is the first thing i see-

 

http://www.beyondmoseying.com/bodycraft-jones-machine.html

 

 

whats sad? that one appears to have an adjustable safety as well as the twist lock....if that is really the case, on that specific machine, if used properly it would be impossible to drop it on yourself

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thats horrible.

was he using a suicide grip? I knew a friend that dropped 420 on his chest at arms length using that grip.

also had another friend drop 440 on his head at a meet, with back and side spotters, they didnt react quick enough which is hard. Gashed his head, and hurt his shoulder.

 

if he is benching 430 on the flat bench then 250 on incline wouldnt be a big deal.

 

i have benched 385 with out a spotter a few times.

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they look like the same thing....it looks odd that the bar hit him at angle when those machines are rigid...he musta realized he was dropping it and tried to move his head or something

 

The Smith machine at the club has independent movement on both tracks, where the Jones moves parallel up and down.

 

The article now claims he was doing a decline press. He does suicide grip.

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The Smith machine at the club has independent movement on both tracks, where the Jones moves parallel up and down.

 

The article now claims he was doing a decline press. He does suicide grip.

 

well then thats just crazy to go solo on decline...especially since its not like incline or even sometimes flat where you might be able to roll it off you...decline its going to roll down to your neck/head area

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I know very little about the sport, but from what I've seen, the Suicide Grip is crazy.

 

What's the purpose of this grip?

 

Take your hands facing out and make the motion of lifting a barbell, then turn them in and do the same. Notice that your inner chest gets a better "squeeze" from the reverse grip. That is my best guess. I've personally never done this at the gym, but that seems to be the reason. I could be wrong.

Also, it's good to hear that the guy is making it. That sounds like an aweful injury to have at the gym. If he's like the rest of us who go to the gym often, he'll want to be back before they will let him. Just hope he is a little more careful next time.

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Take your hands facing out and make the motion of lifting a barbell, then turn them in and do the same.

 

not sure im understanding...

 

i thought suicide grip was jsut having your thumb around the same side of the bar as your fingers, as opposed to the opposite side...like this

 

http://www.beginnersweighttraining.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/suicide-grip.jpg

 

and i thought the purpose was to move the weight closer to your palms to put more work into your forearms?

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not sure im understanding...

 

i thought suicide grip was jsut having your thumb around the same side of the bar as your fingers, as opposed to the opposite side...like this

 

http://www.beginnersweighttraining.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/suicide-grip.jpg

 

and i thought the purpose was to move the weight closer to your palms to put more work into your forearms?

 

you're correct. what the other guy was talking about is just a reverse grip. the guy i went to school with and was training me on bench for a while (he's ~175lbs and benches 405) tried to get me to try the suicide grip (didnt call it that at the time), but i really felt like i had a better grip regular style

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