Dr. Pomade Posted April 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 The gills are a love-it-or-hate-it. Mustang BOSS is ~3600 lbs Camaro ZL1 out of the question? (I guess that may end up heavier than the BOSS) Yeah, the Camaro isn't really an option for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 I agree wholeheartedly with everything you've said...which pretty much sums up why this is a difficult decision, LOL. What are the top reasons you're considering each ? I would list them in order and see what that reveals. You know the drill Doc....drill down on the issue Performance Style Uniqueness Resale Comfort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 Keep in mind for track days the AWD will be way more forgiving under hard driving conditions. The Z06 is just as trackworthy but will make you pay for your mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 Yeah, but I'm not a fan of the gill-like things on the sides of the Grand Sport's. And aesthetically the Mustang's just don't do it for me. Plus, aren't they really heavy? you get can get into the 11s with slicks only. http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=91133 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 I just googled for both in terms of images and the Z06 has so many ways to look sexy. The GTR is cool, but any attempts I've seen to make it different than stock look like rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 Dave Gill Chevrolet, Rod Stalter is the guy to talk to, tell him Scott sent you. I just work on them. http://images.cobaltgroup.com/1/3/9/2551804931.jpg pics don't do this car justice is that a stick on hood scoop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted April 8, 2011 Report Share Posted April 8, 2011 is that a stick on hood scoop? Yeah basically, it's the worst part of the car, but it grows on you. The guys who order these won't order the other option, but something has to be changed to cover the blower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Here you go Mr.Tilley, this is Motortrend's shootout with the sub $100K supercars. GTR - Z06 - GT500 Kinda long, but maybe it'll help a bit of the decision process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 What are the top reasons you're considering each ? I would list them in order and see what that reveals. You know the drill Doc....drill down on the issue Performance Style Uniqueness Resale Comfort I like your style. Okay, we'll start with the things you just listed. I'd rank them in the order I value them based on exactly how you listed them, from most important to least. So, performance is more important than style, which is more important than uniqueness, and so forth. However, that's an ordinal scale, and it doesn't speak to how much I value one over the other (or how far apart each are from each other). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Yeah basically, it's the worst part of the car, but it grows on you. The guys who order these won't order the other option, but something has to be changed to cover the blower. That TVS2300 is an awesome blower IMO. Quite efficient and makes tons of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pomade Posted April 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Keep in mind for track days the AWD will be way more forgiving under hard driving conditions. The Z06 is just as trackworthy but will make you pay for your mistakes. Yeah, that point is not lost on me, my good man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) The GT-R will attract high schoolers while the Z06 will scare them away. oh yeah and the GT-R only comes in automatic or whatever they call it. Edited April 9, 2011 by Not Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Yeah, the Camaro isn't really an option for me. Then my choice would be Z06, with the CFZ Aero Package. Same aero package as the ZR1. http://dubdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2011-Corvette-Z06-Carbon-Limited1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 I like your style. Okay, we'll start with the things you just listed. I'd rank them in the order I value them based on exactly how you listed them, from most important to least. So, performance is more important than style, which is more important than uniqueness, and so forth. However, that's an ordinal scale, and it doesn't speak to how much I value one over the other (or how far apart each are from each other). Well from a performance standpoint, they both deliver and hell, even minor mods change the pecking order. Now if you like to get crazy on the street quite often, you'll enjoy the AWD launch more than trying to hook a Z06 from a light or having to focus as much at controlling it on the highway. You sounded as if 99% of the time you'll be on the street vs track so Style really comes into play quite often. I see far fewer Z06's than plain C6's so while it's not as unique as the GTR, it's a classy unique. I did the style vs the more obnoxious "come look at me I'm different" style the GTR brings to the picture. It's just me but I think the style of a Vette is way more timeless. The GTR is going to get old in terms of how it looks in a few years. I mean when I see a Z06 it really doesn't matter what year it is. It's classy sex. I don't see that with many imports coming from Japan. Germany yes, but not Japan. What are you thoughts there? Look at the style on the Vette. Just changing out the wheels and stance, which are very basic and simple, offers a ton of looks with relatively little to change out. The GTR Is almost too unique. I think it's much more difficult to make it even more unique without going to the ricer side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTS1200 Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 I was facing the same decision about 5 months ago. I did a lot of research on the GTR at Nagtroc.org. The service costs on the car are much higher than one would anticipate for a Nissan. A lot guys were paying $1800-$2000 for the 18,000 mile service which is basically changing the trans. and diff. fluids. If you change it yourself you can buy the fluids for around $750.00. The transmission can be problematic even in the 2010-11 models but it seems like they have worked out a lot of the bugs. If you don't modify the car Nissan certainly seems willing to replace the entire transmission when problems do arise. If you decide to modify and they deny you warranty work be prepared to shell out some serious coin to repair/replace. I prefer the GTR over the Z06 even with all of it's quirks and higher service costs. The Z06 would probably be a more reliable and cheaper car to maintain but the uniqueness, awd, and rear seating drew me towards the GTR. I came very close to buying a grey 2010 in December but ultimately decided to go a different route. You can't go wrong with either car. Hope all is well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pointslow Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 My vote... black series FTW http://allworldcars.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/vorsteiner_clk_63_black_widow.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 both?? gtr for the winter, z06 for the summer?? my buddy drove his awd S5 all winter here in wisconsin snow, so a GTR should be able to handle columbus snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Brian Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 http://www.vividracing.com/forums/gallery/files/5/5/4/3/FordGT794RGlossBlack1920a.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Can you tell me more about the program to upgrade the GT-R to the 2012 specs? That's definitely a perk. Yeah, I think the same holds true up here, you definitely see more Z06's than GT-R's. I can't find the other article but this says maybe it's only available in Japan right now... http://news.ultimatestreet.com/view/1166/2012-nissan-gt-r In Japan owners of previous GT-Rs will be allowed to upgrade their GT-R to the 2012 specs. No word on if this program is coming to the states. The 2012 GT-R will start at $89,950 and the Black Edition starts at $95,100. I wouldn't really worry about it though you are talking a tune and high-10's. With E85 basic mods and stock Turbo's they are running high-9's which on the street makes it a freaking quick car... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Then my choice would be Z06, with the CFZ Aero Package. Same aero package as the ZR1. http://dubdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2011-Corvette-Z06-Carbon-Limited1.jpg Only problem is that's a $98k Vette which I honestly don't think any Vette is worth, even the ZR1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Boost? Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 These do look TITS though... "The Centennial Edition Corvettes are exclusively done in the new Carbon Flash Metallic exterior with satin-black graphics and unique Centennial Satin Black Wheels with red brake calipers. Red accents are throughout the inside and outside of the car. All the Centennial Corvettes will be available with Magnetic Selective Ride Control. A special “100-Years” graphic showing Louis Chevrolet behind a steering wheel are located on the B-Pillars, the center caps of the wheels and the center of the steering wheel. The graphics are designed to blend with the car The Seats are also embossed with the centennial logo as well. A Small “100″ replaces the fleur-de-lis symbol on the Corvette’s crossed flags logo. Inside you’ll find an ebony leather wrapped dash and doors with complimentary red stitching. Suede accents used first on the 2011 Corvette Z06 Carbon are also found on the Centennial’s seats, steering wheel, shifter and armrests. The RPO for the Centennial package is ZLC. Pricing will be released early this summer prior to production." http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/040711_18.jpg http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/040711_17.jpg http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/040711_14.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Personally, I would go with the Z06 without a second glance. The GT-R to me is over priced for what it is. With the 'Vette, you get a nice level of class along with the outstanding performance and looks. I've also seen more GT-R's down on campus than I have Z06's, or even standard Corvettes. I guess it goes without mentioning, you have a history with Corvettes. Is that something that should be easily cast aside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSSon Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 But at the end of the day it's still a GM. These do look TITS though... http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/040711_18.jpg http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/040711_17.jpg http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/040711_14.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 These do look TITS though... http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/040711_18.jpg http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/040711_17.jpg http://www.corvetteblogger.com/images/content/040711_14.jpg After seeing this I'm torn a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Lee Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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