Nitrousbird Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I've recently began managing a small group that is considered to be in a sales-type position along with my other group of direct reports. This group has a base salary, but 60-80% of their pay is commission. I’ve never been in sales nor have ever managed anyone with a commission-based pay, so I don’t know the normal pay standards for a sales person. My question is - what is considered normal pay protocol for vacation and sick time for a sales position? . Is vacation paid based on your base salary, or paid based on your salary + average sales? How about paid sick time? Or is it done a totally different way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I'm in the car business and going to change that soon, but I get three weeks of vacation with no pay. I rarely call in sick, but when I do its no pay. My next job will definitely have a paid vacation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patterson Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 We do Base+ Commissions as well. When you take a Vacation or a Sick Day you get the base for that day only. The companies reasoning is you're not selling anything that day, we're not gonna give you the extra pay. It used to be Base plus average till they figured out people were actually doing work a few weeks leading up to time off to bump it up. I get 3 weeks Vacation and 10 Sick Days but I rarely use them in a row. Just for that reason. Plus I don't wanna miss a possible sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleguy Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 I have always been paid base salary, no commission for vacations. As far as sick days, most great salesman don't take many if any sick days unless they are practically dying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russian rocket Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 at frito lay we get a 52 week average when we take vacations i am base + commission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 I've recently began managing a small group that is considered to be in a sales-type position along with my other group of direct reports. This group has a base salary, but 60-80% of their pay is commission. I’ve never been in sales nor have ever managed anyone with a commission-based pay, so I don’t know the normal pay standards for a sales person. My question is - what is considered normal pay protocol for vacation and sick time for a sales position? . Is vacation paid based on your base salary, or paid based on your salary + average sales? How about paid sick time? Or is it done a totally different way? Depends on the gig. My teams have always signed a commission agreement of some type. How about yours? Our teams are paid commissions one month in rears and continue to accumulate commissions and base even when on vacation or sick time. We allow 20 days total PTO (personal time off) per year. Sick or vacation, makes no difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 So it looks like it is split, depending on the business. Thanks for the input guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHERRY Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 (edited) When I worked as a service adviser in the car dealership market, I was paid a base salary plus a commission. My vacation was based on a % of my yearly total sales from the previous years, so there was an incentive to sell the best one could. Chuck Edited April 27, 2011 by CHERRY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 you want to get paid, you show up to work. you wanna take a vacation that you're allowed, don't expect to get paid. the job market is on your side right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 So it looks like it is split, depending on the business. Thanks for the input guys. Yep, depends on the market segment for the job. Higher end jobs always give paid vacations/PTO. I don't know any that don't pay out commissions unless you're on FMLA or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pointslow Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Every sales job i have been in was either full commission, base+commission or draw/commission. The only time i was ever paid vacation was when i was base+commission. Sales, you do not call in sick. You work your tail off 5-6 days a week 8-12 hours a day. You can take vacation when you have put in your time and move up to management. Still even then when i was in management i never took vacation or sick time. you take time off, you lose out on sales. A real salesman hates missing a sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 I take all my personal time. If I wasn't given more than a week vacation I would quit or not take the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russian rocket Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Every sales job i have been in was either full commission, base+commission or draw/commission. The only time i was ever paid vacation was when i was base+commission. Sales, you do not call in sick. You work your tail off 5-6 days a week 8-12 hours a day. You can take vacation when you have put in your time and move up to management. Still even then when i was in management i never took vacation or sick time. you take time off, you lose out on sales. A real salesman hates missing a sale. are you in pressure sales? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiji ST Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Depending on how long you've been here, you get anywhere from 1-3 weeks of paid vacation. No sick days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVRINGS Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 Our VC is a avg of a year sales that is paid to us on the 15th check when we take it. Before it was an avg of 3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pointslow Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 are you in pressure sales? Yes, i love the competition and drive in high pressure sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russian rocket Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Yes, i love the competition and drive in high pressure sales. i hate pressure sales lol guaranteed sales are so much less stressful lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstangOH Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 usually the vacation is 3 weeks after your first year.. And an average of what there pay is.. Thats how i pay my employees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pointslow Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 i hate pressure sales lol guaranteed sales are so much less stressful lol Eventually i would like to move into that kind of sales environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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